Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2017 20:47:08

they're coming after social security, medicare and medicaid. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon:

One of the co-founders of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, Mulvaney acknowledged that his views on changing Medicare and Social Security differ from Trump’s.

Mulvaney said that he had “no reason” to think Trump had changed his mind but suggested that he might seek to do so.

“I have to imagine that the president knew what he was getting when he asked me to fill this role,” he said. “I’d like to think it’s why he hired me.”
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby etched Chaos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 21:03:03

Cos, I'm a curious bugger I looked into it, Obama averaged 30 odd Exec Orders a year, feel like Drumpf will hit 500 before 2017 is finished.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby Youseff » Tue Jan 24, 2017 21:14:51

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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby Youseff » Tue Jan 24, 2017 21:29:24

I was thinking about how not all, but most of Trump's most rabid supporters are really stupid, and I remembered this. it's a good mini-story about Mao and the anti-intellectual/anti-intelligence populace movement that fed it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04dy94x
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:13:48

Class in other areas hubba baloo about Barry governing via eXO?
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:24:56

Huh?

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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:25:04

thephan wrote:Class in other areas hubba baloo about Barry governing via eXO?


phan I think you've reverted to your ~2 years ago self
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:25:58

Youseff wrote:I was thinking about how not all, but most of Trump's most rabid supporters are really stupid, and I remembered this. it's a good mini-story about Mao and the anti-intellectual/anti-intelligence populace movement that fed it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04dy94x


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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:30:32

He just threatened enacting martial law in Chicago.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby td11 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:32:24

pacino wrote:He just threatened enacting martial law in Chicago.


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If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:39:55

Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

There have been 37 murders, btw, not 42.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby td11 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:41:42

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN1582XQ

President Donald Trump is expected to sign executive orders starting on Wednesday that include a temporary ban on most refugees and a suspension of visas for citizens of Syria and six other Middle Eastern and African countries, according to several congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter.

Trump is expected to order a multi-month ban on allowing refugees into the United States except for religious minorities escaping persecution, until more aggressive vetting is in place.

Another order will block visas being issued to anyone from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:48:24

td11 wrote:
pacino wrote:He just threatened enacting martial law in Chicago.


@realDonaldTrump
If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!


That's from tonight? What the fuck? Does he know he is president?

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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:50:07

Signing a border wall project one tomorrow.

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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:50:30

O'Reilly had a segment about it. He's still watching 'the shows'.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:52:40

CalvinBall wrote:
td11 wrote:
pacino wrote:He just threatened enacting martial law in Chicago.


@realDonaldTrump
If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!


That's from tonight? What the fuck? Does he know he is president?



It was. And the stat was on Fox news in the 8 o'clock hour.

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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:55:30

1. Why did O'Reilly have wrong numbers?

2. Our president is making policy from watching cable news.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby The Dude » Tue Jan 24, 2017 22:58:55

i think it's more like our president is giving media outlets false info to create policy.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jan 24, 2017 23:00:02

this shitty Cassidy-Collins "plan" is the sort of pathetic crap I'd expect sullen high-school sophomores to come up with the night before their remedial social studies paper was due.

That this 1-page 'treatment' is actually two Republican SENATORS' idea of substantive policy formulation is embarrassing. It's appalling. It's an insult to Americans it purports to benefit, to taxpayers, voters, everyone. It amounts to a regurgitation of ideological hobby horses, festooned with "freedom" and "choice" and other garbage, a punt to states, and optionally - special bonus for bankers! - "funds [to] be deposited in a Roth Health Savings Account (HSA), meaning the money will go directly to the patient" . What about fees associated with these government-sinecure accounts? Oh, don't worry about those - they probably won't amount to more than 5% of your deposits. Chicken feed! Chicken shit.

Cassidy-Collins' Option 3 "would return power to the States to design and regulate insurance markets that work for their specific populations, without any federal assistance."

ACA already has a section, Section 1332, that basically allows states to make their own ACA, AND obtain federal support for it. While its provisions are probably more stringent than freedom & power lovers like Cassidy could endure, it would do more than this bill and with less pulling and hauling. But no, we've got to make a big show of repealing the black devil's work, so we can do less, and worse, and more wastefully.
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Re: Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2017 23:09:22

We're paying for the wall.
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