Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Politics

Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby Slowhand » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:47:31

Who moderates the moderators?
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby Grotewold » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:58:17

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:00:55

CalvinBall wrote:mods, can we ban pacino?

whatd i do
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby Youseff » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:01:14

slugsrbad wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
JUburton wrote:surprising how many of the LIBERAL MEDIA are anti buzzfeed's full publishing of the document

Leaving aside how dumb and counterproductive it was, it also undercuts the media as an institution by further erasing its role as gatekeeper.


Yea, and BuzzFeed had seem to be gaining traction in the political journalism arena.

It's a fun read because of schadenfreude, but doesn't accomplish anything.


They qualified it, they didn't present it as verified. They said, accurately, it's a document that's been making the rounds on Capital Hill. All this hemming and hawing that it's destroying the credibility of the media is overshot. The people decrying it as fake news have never read an article more than 800 words, and will just parrot what ever Trump & his Klan surrogates say, so it changes nothing in that arena.

All of the morons that are incapable of an original opinion are regurgitating this opinion that it's fake because a political opponent did oppo research, but this would be the first time in American history when oppo research even sniffed at a major presidential candidate colluding with foreign governments. That it yielded as much meat as it did, that it made it's rounds on Capital Hill is incredibly, historically news worthy.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:02:17

pacino wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:mods, can we ban pacino?

whatd i do


called rocky fake, pal

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby traderdave » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:06:24

Oh, shit. It was nice knowing you, Pac.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby JUburton » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:09:58

have we mentioned the head of the OGE saying trump's business plan is wholly inadequate?
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:13:28

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:16:38

JUburton wrote:have we mentioned the head of the OGE saying trump's plan is wholly inadequate?

the remarks

It’s easy to see that the current plan does not achieve anything like the clean break Rex Tillerson is
making from Exxon. Stepping back from running his business is meaningless from a conflict of interest
perspective. The Presidency is a full-time job and he would’ve had to step back anyway. The idea of setting up
a trust to hold his operating businesses adds nothing to the equation. This is not a blind trust—it’s not even
close.
I think Politico called this a “half-blind” trust, but it’s not even halfway blind. The only thing this has in
common with a blind trust is the label, “trust.” His sons are still running the businesses, and, of course, he
knows what he owns. His own attorney said today that he can’t “un-know” that he owns Trump tower. The
same is true of his other holdings. The idea of limiting direct communication about the business is wholly
inadequate. That’s not how a blind trust works. There’s not supposed to be any information at all.
2
Here too, his attorney said something important today. She said he’ll know about a deal if he reads it in
the paper or sees in on TV. That wouldn’t happen with a blind trust. In addition, the notion that there won’t be
new deals doesn’t solve the problem of all the existing deals and businesses. The enormous stack of documents
on the stage when he spoke shows just how many deals and businesses there are.
I was especially troubled by the statement that the incoming administration is going to demand that OGE
approve a diversified portfolio of assets. No one has ever talked to us about that idea, and there’s no legal
mechanism to do that. Instead, Congress set up OGE’s blind trust program under the Ethics in Government Act.
Under that law anyone who wants a blind trust has to work with OGE from the start, but OGE has been left out
of this process. We would have told them that this arrangement fails to meet the statutory requirements.

The President-elect’s attorney justified the decision not to use a blind trust by saying that you can’t put
operating businesses in a blind trust. She’s right about that. That’s why the decision to set up this strange new
kind of trust is so perplexing. The attorney also said she feared the public might question the legitimacy of the
sale price if he divested his assets. I wish she had spoken with those of us in the government who do this for a
living. We would have reassured her that Presidential nominees in every administration agree to sell illiquid
assets all the time. Unlike the President, they have to run the gauntlet of a rigorous Senate confirmation process
where the legitimacy of their divestiture plans can be closely scrutinized. These individuals get through the
nomination process by carefully ensuring that the valuation of their companies is done according to accepted
industry standards. There’s nothing unusual about th


it's only 4 pages, and worth reading.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby JUburton » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:28:26

it's astounding, but not.

so the senate budget that passed...that's just for the budgetary items of the ACA, right? can the house still draft a bill incorporating those but also including a replacement? or would the replacement then be subject to filibuster because it's not reconciliation?

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:39:50

a replacement would be something different and be a start over. this is to repeal and make it able to repeal with 51 votes instead of 60. there was no 'replace' in it.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:41:13

So much good stuff here...

1) a watchmen reference
2) Pac playing along (me hopes) that he does not know his time and service are about up for suggesting the Rocky is fake when we all know that Sly Stallone is fake and he is played by Rocky
3) No one pulling the string specifically and explicitly on the difference of words Fable versus Fabled (although Pac did it in a clumsy way that gets him banned and/or punched by Rocky - for charity of course)
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby JUburton » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:48:51

pacino wrote:a replacement would be something different and be a start over. this is to repeal and make it able to repeal with 51 votes instead of 60. there was no 'replace' in it.
yeah, and i figured it would have to be, budget wise...i just didn't know if it could change in the actual bill. but i doubt it.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:51:38

Previewing what might become my new signature:

“The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.”

― George Orwell, Politics and the English Language


'long words and exhausted idioms' might need a twist to describe today's reality.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:53:30

Apparently "Keepin It 1600" is no longer a thing. Pfeiffer, Favreau, Vietor, and Lovett have started a new venture, and their new pod is called "Pod Save America." First ep dropped Monday.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:55:04

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:55:16

yep! posted here and in the podcast thread.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:00:39

dont know how you can listen to ben carson and think he is smart

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:10:36

pacino wrote:Rex Tillerson said he never lobbied against Russian sanctions...Corker later confirmed a conversation with Tillerson re: sanctions.



Did tillerson lie during his confirmation testimony? Is he sworn in during that testimony?
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:13:22

Monkeyboy wrote:
pacino wrote:Rex Tillerson said he never lobbied against Russian sanctions...Corker later confirmed a conversation with Tillerson re: sanctions.



Did tillerson lie during his confirmation testimony? Is he sworn in during that testimony?

yes, you get sworn in
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