It's the nature of science to provoke debate.

no it's not.

Taking soda machines out of school isn't the same as banning soda. I mean, when I wasn't in school, we weren't allowed to bring Frisbees, but no one ever talked about a Frisbee ban.

TenuredVulture wrote:Taking soda machines out of school isn't the same as banning soda. I mean, when I wasn't in school, we weren't allowed to bring Frisbees, but no one ever talked about a Frisbee ban.

that's not i was talking about really. i was saying smoking/drunk driving/etc benefited more from a ban than education, that's all i was saying. THe sodas not being in the school certainly helps, but after that, they're still going to be getting either when they get home or graduate or whatever.

The Dude wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Taking soda machines out of school isn't the same as banning soda. I mean, when I wasn't in school, we weren't allowed to bring Frisbees, but no one ever talked about a Frisbee ban.

that's not i was talking about really. i was saying smoking/drunk driving/etc benefited more from a ban than education, that's all i was saying. THe sodas not being in the school certainly helps, but after that, they're still going to be getting either when they get home or graduate or whatever.

But for smoking, the evidence was the biggest declines followed education. The fact that fewer people smoke made it politically possible to ban smoking in more and more places.

it might be bc of education, who can really tell. there had been smoking sections for years and years before outright bans, so people knew it was bad for a long time, it just takes forever to get that kind of legislation passed. Also, the more important thing is more people are smoking, which would seem to indicate the education didn't hold

I WANNA LEARN ABOUT SCIENCE AND NATURE DAMNIT

smoking rates are up?

the study that NPR cited only looked at kids aged 1-17, so it wasn't really an all-inclusive sample size. it could be that adults are more cognizant of the labels. and it is only one study.

there have been other studies that show it does make some difference. education is by far the most important thing but i really don't think you can just dismiss labeling off-hand because of the results of one study focusing on adolescents. even if it is an insignificant difference at the moment doesn't mean it will stay that way. and in the end the labels can't really hurt, can only help, so why not?

i'm not saying get rid of them, i'm describing my experience seeing people not care and the study. i just said i don't think it will have an effect bc SK didn't know places had already been doing it. there was also the yale and harvard studies, which i trust a bit more than the nyc dept of health. so it's more than a small sample size from one study.

but again, to me the problem isn't eating 100 fewer calories (the nyc dept of health study's findings, which is nothing at mcd's if we're talking about 1000 calorie meal), but knowing not to enter the store at all or much less frequently

td11 wrote:the study that NPR cited only looked at kids aged 1-17, so it wasn't really an all-inclusive sample size. it could be that adults are more cognizant of the labels. and it is only one study.

also this isn't the study, the study you're linking was from a journal from over a year ago. that's not the story or group that npr reported on yesterday

oh, my b. i was just using the link i found on the top of page 10. i just assumed i had linked the right one cuz you and tv started discussing it. can you link to the npr story you're talking about from yesterday?

i was never really talking about that one. i didn't even look at the npr site to see if it's on there

it was a 5 minute piece during the 8-9 hour

FTN wrote:http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/14sep_mysteryspheres/

"They seem to be crunchy on the outside, and softer in the middle,"

OMIGOD THEY FOUND REESE'S CRISPY CRUNCH BARS ON MARS!!!

best video you'll watch all day

http://vimeo.com/48544219

SHITS WEIRD

jamiethekiller wrote:best video you'll watch all day

http://vimeo.com/48544219

enjoyed this, thanks asshole

check out the cement cast of the leaf cutter ant city holy fuck

I've always kinda hated ants, but they are pretty amazing. We have wood ants here in Switzerland and the mounds are often 3 ft tall. We're going to do a few studies on them this year because there's 15-20 mounds within a 1/2 mile of the school. I've been in contact with a two profs at Lausanne University about coming and giving a talk about their research. When it's warm, the mounds are just teeming with ants (the top of the mound looks black from their numbers) and they are all over the forest floor. They also bite. Bastards.