HWGA

i lean bucky on this issue, but agree grote has some good ideas.

SK790 wrote:you're right, nobody who ever cared about caloric intake ever ate at mcdonalds.

i think the smart people who eat at mcdonalds know its not good for them, so they dont really "care" that what they are eating is unhealthy. generally if you "care" about eating healthy, you make a conscious effort to not eat garbage. and mcdonalds is certainly garbage.

Woody wrote:It ain't necessarily the calories that's killing people, it's the carbs

is this true?

CalvinBall wrote:

Woody wrote:It ain't necessarily the calories that's killing people, it's the carbs

is this true?

no. it's the bullets.

CalvinBall wrote:

Woody wrote:It ain't necessarily the calories that's killing people, it's the carbs

is this true?

sugar is more or less poison

While it seems likely that the kind of calorie matters, the amount of calories matter as well. And it's not really carbs per se, it's sugars and white flour (and potatoes and white rice) that are not good things to eat if you're trying to lose weight. And fruit juice is bad too, though fruit itself is okay, and better than a lot of other things you might snack on. And a lot of "whole grain" is really not good either. But if you think you can eat carb free crisco and hotdogs without the bun, well, that's probably not a great plan.

Also, consider "hidden" carbs--ketchup is pretty much 1/4 sugar (or HFC) honey mustard and relish probably have sweeteners added to them.

TenuredVulture wrote:white rice

Also, sriacha sauce is mostly sugar.

you best leave duck sauce alone

Made from artificial ducks.

SK790 wrote:i think people care. at least people will who are trying to remain somewhat healthy.

yeah, but if they are trying to remain somewhat healthy, mcd's is likely they're treat of the week or whatever and they don't really care.

Yes, they had salads then

i got mcdonalds on sunday. i threw up my breakfast and needed something to recharge me before sports. it got the job done. tasted pretty fucking good, too(10pc with fries)

surprised you remember

td11 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

Woody wrote:It ain't necessarily the calories that's killing people, it's the carbs

is this true?

sugar is more or less delicious poison

fyp

TenuredVulture wrote:While it seems likely that the kind of calorie matters, the amount of calories matter as well. And it's not really carbs per se, it's sugars and white flour (and potatoes and white rice) that are not good things to eat if you're trying to lose weight. And fruit juice is bad too, though fruit itself is okay, and better than a lot of other things you might snack on. And a lot of "whole grain" is really not good either. But if you think you can eat carb free crisco and hotdogs without the bun, well, that's probably not a great plan.

Also, consider "hidden" carbs--ketchup is pretty much 1/4 sugar (or HFC) honey mustard and relish probably have sweeteners added to them.

Honey mustard, you don't say

that's ptk level conspiracy theory

FTN wrote:

SK790 wrote:you're right, nobody who ever cared about caloric intake ever ate at mcdonalds.

i think the smart people who eat at mcdonalds know its not good for them, so they dont really "care" that what they are eating is unhealthy. generally if you "care" about eating healthy, you make a conscious effort to not eat garbage. and mcdonalds is certainly garbage.

nobody goes there because the food is good, but i'm sure there are several people who are just eating there because it's fast and easy, but would like to limit the caloric damage. i really don't see what the harm is in having them list the calories. people having more information is always a good thing.

i haven't eaten at a mcdonalds in several years, but i go to taco bell and wendy's from time to time and i appreciate them listing the calories so i know how much damage i'm doing.

there's no harm in listing, it just doesn't matter.

npr had a story today about a group that researched eating habit changes in McD's once it was mandatory to have caloric info listed. They found there was no change at all in the caloric intake of McDs customers. So yeah, list it, but it's not going to do anything. The vast majority of the people going know what they're getting when they go there. As one of the people interviewed said "When I want a salad, I don't go to McDonald's"

fluoride is a mind control agent