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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Wed Sep 19, 2012 15:51:10

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Soren » Wed Sep 19, 2012 16:03:30

Woody wrote:
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby td11 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 09:11:29

Thousands of scientific sleuths have been on this case for the last 15 years trying to determine why our honey bees are disappearing in such alarming numbers. “This is the biggest general threat to our food supply,” according to Kevin Hackett, the national program leader for the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s bee and pollination program.

Until recently, the evidence was inconclusive on the cause of the mysterious “colony collapse disorder” (CCD) that threatens the future of beekeeping worldwide. But three new studies point an accusing finger at a culprit that many have suspected all along, a class of pesticides known as neonicotinoids.

In the U.S. alone, these pesticides, produced primarily by the German chemical giant Bayer and known as “neonics” for short, coat a massive 142 million acres of corn, wheat, soy and cotton seeds. They are also a common ingredient in home gardening products.

Research published last month in the prestigious journal Science shows that neonics are absorbed by the plants’ vascular system and contaminate the pollen and nectar that bees encounter on their rounds. They are a nerve poison that disorient their insect victims and appear to damage the homing ability of bees, which may help to account for their mysterious failure to make it back to the hive.



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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Thu Sep 20, 2012 15:59:11

Fucking krauts and their Fourth Reich. Don't tell me this isn't a hostile act. Probably just using stocks left over from WWII.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:30:26

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby phatj » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:51:38

"exotic matter"
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby td11 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:53:33

phatj wrote:"exotic matter"


usually how i answer the ethnicity question on most legal forms
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby cshort » Fri Sep 21, 2012 13:06:00

td11 wrote:
Thousands of scientific sleuths have been on this case for the last 15 years trying to determine why our honey bees are disappearing in such alarming numbers. “This is the biggest general threat to our food supply,” according to Kevin Hackett, the national program leader for the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s bee and pollination program.

Until recently, the evidence was inconclusive on the cause of the mysterious “colony collapse disorder” (CCD) that threatens the future of beekeeping worldwide. But three new studies point an accusing finger at a culprit that many have suspected all along, a class of pesticides known as neonicotinoids.

In the U.S. alone, these pesticides, produced primarily by the German chemical giant Bayer and known as “neonics” for short, coat a massive 142 million acres of corn, wheat, soy and cotton seeds. They are also a common ingredient in home gardening products.

Research published last month in the prestigious journal Science shows that neonics are absorbed by the plants’ vascular system and contaminate the pollen and nectar that bees encounter on their rounds. They are a nerve poison that disorient their insect victims and appear to damage the homing ability of bees, which may help to account for their mysterious failure to make it back to the hive.



http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2 ... es-solved/


I'll admit to listening to Coast to Coast at night, and the program gets poked fun at because of all of the talk about space aliens, etc. Have to give them credit though - one of the contributors, Linda Moulton Howe (who believes in some off the wall stuff), was all over this back in 2007.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:08:15

cshort wrote:
td11 wrote:
Thousands of scientific sleuths have been on this case for the last 15 years trying to determine why our honey bees are disappearing in such alarming numbers. “This is the biggest general threat to our food supply,” according to Kevin Hackett, the national program leader for the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s bee and pollination program.

Until recently, the evidence was inconclusive on the cause of the mysterious “colony collapse disorder” (CCD) that threatens the future of beekeeping worldwide. But three new studies point an accusing finger at a culprit that many have suspected all along, a class of pesticides known as neonicotinoids.

In the U.S. alone, these pesticides, produced primarily by the German chemical giant Bayer and known as “neonics” for short, coat a massive 142 million acres of corn, wheat, soy and cotton seeds. They are also a common ingredient in home gardening products.

Research published last month in the prestigious journal Science shows that neonics are absorbed by the plants’ vascular system and contaminate the pollen and nectar that bees encounter on their rounds. They are a nerve poison that disorient their insect victims and appear to damage the homing ability of bees, which may help to account for their mysterious failure to make it back to the hive.



http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2 ... es-solved/


I'll admit to listening to Coast to Coast at night, and the program gets poked fun at because of all of the talk about space aliens, etc. Have to give them credit though - one of the contributors, Linda Moulton Howe (who believes in some off the wall stuff), was all over this back in 2007.



I thought I posted about this earlier, but the Germans stooped using those insecticides back in 2007 because the evidence was pretty damning. They had deaths everywhere they used the insecticide, but bees were fine elsewhere. But there was too much money being made to allow common sense to dictate policy in most countries.

Who would have thought that insecticides might harm bees!?!?
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Luzinski's Gut » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:47:27

If you want to read a really, really wild book that is somewhat connected to this...

http://www.amazon.com/The-Hunt-Zero-Poi ... zero+point

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby cshort » Fri Sep 21, 2012 18:08:38

WheelsFellOff wrote:WARP SPEED AHEAD


This is why I'm always disappointed when NASA funding is cut. I know it's bureaucratic and isn't always focused, but they can do some amazing things.

Star Trek had warp drive invented in 2063. Not out of the realm of possibility the way technology moves.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby td11 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 08:52:52

Honeybees (Apis mellifera) in California and South Dakota have been observed acting zombielike, wandering away from their hives at night and crawling around blindly in circles.

These insects have been rendered insensate by a parasitizing fly that lays eggs in the bees’ bodies. After the bee dies a lonesome death, pupae crawl out and grow to adult flies that seek new bodies to infect.

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Honeybee colonies have been collapsing at an alarming rate in the U.S. for the past several years. And without these important pollinators, many of our favorite foods, from almonds to zucchini would be difficult to produce. Scientists have implicated viruses, fungi, mites and other invaders in colony collapse disorder, but Hafernik suspects this parasite is a new villain on the scene. “Honeybees are among the best-studied insects,” he said in a prepared statement in January. “We would expect that if this has been a long-term parasite of honeybees, we would have noticed.”



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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Sep 26, 2012 09:19:54

gonna be hard to eat in 20 years

Midwest running out of water, too

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:30:06

zombie bee apocalypse!!!
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby SK790 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 15:00:57

Houshphandzadeh wrote:gonna be hard to eat in 20 years

Midwest running out of water, too

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Sep 26, 2012 15:08:49

SK790 wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:gonna be hard to eat in 20 years

Midwest running out of water, too

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even without the drought, they were going to empty the huge underground aquifer that supplies much of the agricultural water. We're doomed. Same thing is happening in China, only faster.

This is why aquaponics is going to big, imho. I guess there could be some other big technological advancement(s), like what drove the green revolution, but my money is on aquaponics. It uses 2-10% of the water of traditional agriculture, no need for pesticides or fertilizers (many come from petroleum products), can be grown locally (also saves fossil fuels), and you get to eat the fish as bonus protein. You can feed the fish a diet or duckweed, earthworms, and black fly larvae, all of which can be grown for next to nothing. Throw some solar panels or other electricity-generating device on it and it's completely sustainable. Fuck Big Ag.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Sep 26, 2012 15:09:18

Phan In Phlorida wrote:zombie bee apocalypse!!!



I was afraid this would happen.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby SK790 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 15:18:17

Monkeyboy wrote:
SK790 wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:gonna be hard to eat in 20 years

Midwest running out of water, too

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even without the drought, they were going to empty the huge underground aquifer that supplies much of the agricultural water. We're doomed. Same thing is happening in China, only faster.

This is why aquaponics is going to big, imho. I guess there could be some other big technological advancement(s), like what drove the green revolution, but my money is on aquaponics. It uses 2-10% of the water of traditional agriculture, no need for pesticides or fertilizers (many come from petroleum products), can be grown locally (also saves fossil fuels), and you get to eat the fish as bonus protein. You can feed the fish a diet or duckweed, earthworms, and black fly larvae, all of which can be grown for next to nothing. Throw some solar panels or other electricity-generating device on it and it's completely sustainable. Fuck Big Ag.

Agree, but the crippling, long-term drought isn't helping things any. Also agree with you re: aquaponics.
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