It's Done? Roy Halladay traded to Phils, Lee (?) to Mariners

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:39:23

While the Phillies have done next to no actual negotiating with Lee, they heard enough rumblings that Lee wanted a CC Sabathia-type contract that they believed it would take a five-year or six-year deal to keep the 31-year-old left-hander.

Halladay, on the other hand, was willing to talk about a shorter guarantee if it meant going to the Phillies, a team with a spring training site minutes away from his home in Florida.

The Phillies could have held on to Lee and taken a chance that they could sign one of the two pitchers as a free agent next winter. But they were apparently concerned there would be a massive bidding war over Halladay and Lee that would price them both out of their range.


Before turning to Seattle, multiple sources say, the Phillies first attempted to complete a two-team deal with Toronto alone for Halladay. However, the Phillies refused -- as they had last summer -- to include their top pitching prospect, Kyle Drabek, in that trade. So they began looking for another team that could help them meet the Blue Jays' price.

Seattle became an attractive match because of Aumont, the Mariners' No. 1 pick in 2007 and a native of Quebec.

The Phillies also had to clear payroll space to accommodate the addition of Halladay. They attempted to do that by trading away Blanton, but found they couldn't get enough back to enable them to make a Halladay deal.


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Postby PSUsarge » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:39:26

joe table wrote:Deal blew up. Blanton tested positive for vanilla frosting in his physical


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Postby Trent Steele » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:40:03

Stark posted this in his article today as well

The Associated Press reported that J.A. Happ, Joe Blanton and Brown also took physicals in Philadelphia on Monday, but there's no clear indication that they are a part of this trade.
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Postby VFB » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:41:09

Both the Stark and Heyman updates dont mention any of our minor leaguers. Maybe it's Cliff only??

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Postby MattS » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:41:56

i have absolutely no idea how to feel. halladay for lee should have been fair given the money. surrendering brown or taylor would be idiotic under normal circumstances. only issue is that halladay's supposed deal for 3/60 would be ridiculous. ridiculous. worth 3/80 even discounting that for losing picks. that would make it worth brown or taylor again. this whole thing really hinges on these big prospects, as everyone has been saying. i really hope this goes down soon.

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Postby Wizlah » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:42:14

Trent Steele wrote:Stark posted this in his article today as well

The Associated Press reported that J.A. Happ, Joe Blanton and Brown also took physicals in Philadelphia on Monday, but there's no clear indication that they are a part of this trade.


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Postby joe table » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:42:29

VFB wrote:Both the Stark and Heyman updates dont mention any of our minor leaguers. Maybe it's Cliff only??


Has to be at least something coming from us, or else SEA would just scoop Halladay themselves right? They have plenty of money by all accounts to take the 15 mil

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Postby bleh » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:42:33

Here's another relevant twitter post
THE_REAL_WHEELS wrote: Big news of the day: Polanco will get his old locker back according to team officials

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Postby Trent Steele » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:42:57

joe table wrote:
VFB wrote:Both the Stark and Heyman updates dont mention any of our minor leaguers. Maybe it's Cliff only??


Has to be at least something coming from us, or else SEA would just scoop Halladay themselves right? They have plenty of money by all accounts to take the 15 mil


Halladay probably wouldnt go
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Postby VFB » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:43:15

joe table wrote:
VFB wrote:Both the Stark and Heyman updates dont mention any of our minor leaguers. Maybe it's Cliff only??


Has to be at least something coming from us, or else SEA would just scoop Halladay themselves right? They have plenty of money by all accounts to take the 15 mil

no trade clause!

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Postby joe table » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:43:51

VFB wrote:
joe table wrote:
VFB wrote:Both the Stark and Heyman updates dont mention any of our minor leaguers. Maybe it's Cliff only??


Has to be at least something coming from us, or else SEA would just scoop Halladay themselves right? They have plenty of money by all accounts to take the 15 mil

no trade clause!


Right you are Ken. Forgot that one

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Postby FTN » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:44:35

I want Morrow.

Again, Lee is worth at least 1 elite prospect + 1 second tier guy. Hes a #1 starter signed for $9M. Just because we hosed Cleveland doesn't mean someone should hose us for him.

I really wish this whole "the budget is $140M talk" would have been kept quiet.

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Postby LongDrive » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:49:47

"People" tell Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun that Aumont is not a part of the deal (via Twitter).




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Postby FTN » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:51:16

this is awesome.

kendrick is gonna end up the centerpiece

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Postby Trent Steele » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:51:48

LongDrive wrote:
"People" tell Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun that Aumont is not a part of the deal (via Twitter).



FFS this is all so ridiculous. Elliott could be getting bad info, but he's relatively wired in Toronto.

And why are Blanton, Happ, and Brown in town for physicals when Lee's agent has no idea what is going on?


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Postby Trent Steele » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:52:08

AND NOW I CANT EVEN POST RIGHT
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Postby The Savior » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:52:54

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Postby FTN » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:52:54

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Postby Wizlah » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:53:30

Trent Steele wrote:AND NOW I CANT EVEN POST RIGHT


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Postby S2D » Mon Dec 14, 2009 20:54:21

Stark says they tried doing the deal without Lee first and that the only refusal was Drabek. This would partially explain why those guys were in town taking physicals on Toronto's behalf.

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