Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby SixerLed3 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 19:04:13

Multiple league sources don’t expect executive vice president of basketball operations Alex Rucker to be back next season. Brand has received a lot of criticism for the Sixers’ shortcomings and poor decisions. However, Rucker has been heavily involved behind the scenes in a lot of the decision-making, according to sources. Philly originally hired him as VP of analytics and strategy in October 2016 after seven years as the Toronto Raptors' senior analytics consultant.

Sources have said assistant GM Ned Cohen and VP of strategy Sergi Oliva were also involved in the decision-making. Oliva had a lot to do with determining the Sixers’ rotation and substitution patterns based on the analytics, according to sources. He was an integral part of the coaching meetings and presented the coaches with an analytics sheet to consult during ames.

Time will tell who the Sixers opt to let go, or if they will re-assign Cohen, Oliva or others in their front office. But a change is definitely coming.


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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby Squire » Tue Sep 08, 2020 19:07:20

Blame the analytics guy

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby SixerLed3 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 19:18:37

Squire wrote:Blame the analytics guy


This is the second article Pompey has written blaming analytics for the Sixers shortcomings. I think the whole front office should be gone but good analytics would not lead to the personnel decisions they’ve made the last couple of offseasons.

The one thing we do know is the Sixers relied too heavily on analytics during The Process and failed to live up to their lofty expectations.

However, you can’t blame Brown for the team’s reliance on analytics to make questionable draft picks, trades, and free-agent signees, which have set the franchise back.

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby mcare89 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 19:28:24

It's the truest sign that this franchise still just doesn't get it, and they've never gotten it. It's an ownership group with the attention span of a fruit fly that can't articulate a clear vision for what they want this team to be, which is why it has become the jumbled mess that it is.

They've constantly tried to chase dominant decision makers but then they'll spend two years talking about how much they love their collaborative working group. Then, the second the shit hits the fan, the problem is that the collaborative was TOO collaborative and that the guy in charge wasn't actually in charge, which is why he's staying while everyone else gets cleaned out.

First they loved Doug Collins, then they loved Hinkie, then they fell in love with the Colangelos, then they loved Brett, now it's Elton. First they didn't want analytics, then they hired the ultimate analytics hire, then they hired the old guys who wanted more BASKETBALL GUYS, then they put in place a collaborative front office where analytics was a focus, and now they're trying to spin that the reason this didn't work out was because of the analytics guys.

It's insanity. And you can tell from the leaks coming out of that building that they still don't realize where they went wrong.

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby joe table » Tue Sep 08, 2020 19:30:49

Squire wrote:Blame the analytics guy


Gotta blame someone the nerds are the easiest targets

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby gr » Tue Sep 08, 2020 20:26:52

joe table wrote:Everyone nationally seems to realize/ respect how good he is. Credit to him for putting in the work on that ends - remember the nrtv at LSU about how he couldn’t defend? Though no one really could have predicted he would turn into a lockdown perimeter defender at that point


Did we develop him or was this some kind of other miracle?
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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby Grotewold » Tue Sep 08, 2020 20:35:16

Rotation and substitution patterns, lol. Yeah. No

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby SixerLed3 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 21:37:57

Source tells @TheAthletic that Billy Donovan, who has parted ways with OKC, is expected to be a candidate for the Sixers’ opening. Clippers asst. Ty Lue, as has been reported, also among the candidates.


https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/13 ... 15873?s=21

Billy Donovan's name has been floating around as a potential Sixers head coaching candidate this month, per sources. But the first order of business for Philadelphia is to get its front office situation sorted out.


https://twitter.com/kevinoconnornba/sta ... 78753?s=21

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 08, 2020 21:58:01

Line me up for Billy

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Sep 08, 2020 22:53:59

Seems like OKC overachieved pretty good this year. Overachieving would be good.

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby phillychuck » Tue Sep 08, 2020 23:02:33

What, exactly, is Billy Donovan good at doing? My impression is that he's along for the ride most of the time, but I may be totally wrong.
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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby MoBettle » Tue Sep 08, 2020 23:08:06

Seems very fair to say his teams have disappointed for years and then CP3 coached up the thunder this year (and they still lost in 7 to a team missing an all star for half the series).

Maybe the college coach of the millennium though
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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby mcare89 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 23:21:34

phillychuck wrote:What, exactly, is Billy Donovan good at doing? My impression is that he's along for the ride most of the time, but I may be totally wrong.

I don't know that there's a single coach available that I can properly answer that question for, which is why I've mostly thrown my hands up except for a few guys that I know I don't want (Mark Jackson, Jason Kidd, any member of the Van Gundy family).

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby phillychuck » Tue Sep 08, 2020 23:51:03

I think it's a mistake to go the "established coach with a championship pedigree" route, though. Most of those guys do NOT do anything particularly well. If you're Elton, interview the brightest young minds sitting in the #2 and #3 seats, and ask them--what can you do well that will help this team?

I have almost zero hope this will happen.

So Lue and Donovan might be the best we can hope for. And pray they have some young assistant(s) in mind who can scheme things up and develop players.
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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby joe table » Wed Sep 09, 2020 00:02:32

Donovan would be an objective upgrade on brown based on their track records but he’s not regarded as a tactical wizard (like a carlisle/spo/nurse) or value add macro strategy guy (like budenholzer) so understand why some would be lukewarm on him. He’ll also cost a lot of money and that may be an issue for harris. But also think we need to manage our expectations and he might be the best gettable option now

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby joe table » Wed Sep 09, 2020 00:05:31

phillychuck wrote:I think it's a mistake to go the "established coach with a championship pedigree" route, though. Most of those guys do NOT do anything particularly well. If you're Elton, interview the brightest young minds sitting in the #2 and #3 seats, and ask them--what can you do well that will help this team?

I have almost zero hope this will happen.

So Lue and Donovan might be the best we can hope for. And pray they have some young assistant(s) in mind who can scheme things up and develop players.


You made the right point in the last part - get him some smart assistants but they probably will want an experienced coach with some track record to manage the two young star players (egos and otherwise) day to day, so don’t think you can just hire the smartest inexperienced candidate possible at this point nd some of that Dug EQ

Also think Donovan had some players develop well over his tenure in OKC (ibaka, SGA some notable ones), though who knows how much credit he deserves for those

Actually can’t give him too much credit for ibaka either since he only had a year with him

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby The Savior » Wed Sep 09, 2020 09:36:11

KD didn’t like playing for BD - as told by KD on his twitter feed
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby ek20 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 09:57:56

Who does he like playing for other than the guy he just hand picked in NJ. He would have to be an idiot to say he didn't like Kerr
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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby Gimpy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:10:34

I thought he liked Brooks too.

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Re: Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

Postby CFP » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:11:42

I'm surprised there isn't more Atkinson talk

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