60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 18:57:39

The Sarge wrote:Pivetta to LHV, Brogdon, Parker up, Williams and Kelly DFA

If I am super excited about Blake Parker I guess that’s a problem

by **Titlehungry** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 00:47:00

Stay_Disappointed wrote:
The Sarge wrote:Pivetta to LHV, Brogdon, Parker up, Williams and Kelly DFA

If I am super excited about Blake Parker I guess that’s a problem

Would have given Nick Williams a couple chances to pitch yet

by **Titlehungry** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 00:48:41

The Sarge wrote:Pivetta to LHV, Brogdon, Parker up, Williams and Kelly DFA

If Dorney Park burns down, the Lehigh Valley will remember this day

by **Squire** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 09:56:25

BA Mid-Season Farm System Rankings - Phillies 26th out of 30. Wow.

by **CFP** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:02:10

Thankfully all the young outstanding talent like Hoskins and Kingery is already in the majors

by **Bill McNeal** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:04:08

Time to move on from Klentak. I’ve been more patient than others over the past few few years, but other than Harper (which seems like it was more Middleton and money than any actual GMing) what good moves has he made? Didi looks good so far, but it’s a SSS and he’s only on a 1 year deal

by **CalvinBall** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:09:12

Bill McNeal wrote:Time to move on from Klentak. I’ve been more patient than others over the past few few years, but other than Harper (which seems like it was more Middleton and money than any actual GMing) what good moves has he made? Didi looks good so far, but it’s a SSS and he’s only on a 1 year deal

Truly. Farm system is fucked.

by **MoBettle** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:12:43

Signing Gosselin and him getting hot for a few weeks might honestly be a top 5-10 move of his tenure. It's one of only a few good trades or signings that wasn't just outbidding other teams for an established MLB player.

by **CFP** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:14:09

It's kind of like Wade though. Drafted all that great talent and just needed Gillick to get them over the hump. Thankfully Klentak has done the same with the minors and they can just find that veteran GM to get them to the promised land.

by **Squire** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:18:14

Top 100 prospects (2): RHP Spencer Howard (28), 3B Alec Bohm (29)

The Skinny: In normal systems, having two Top 30 prospects would mean inclusion in the upper echelon of baseball. Aside from first-round picks RHP Mick Abel and SS Bryson Stott, however, the system’s quality takes a short, sharp dive. Third-round pick SS Casey Martin, who was among the most tooled-up players available in the draft, could give the group a boost with a strong pro debut in 2021, however.

by **azrider** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:29:03

klentak just recently flipped both scouting and development. it's probably going to take a 2-3 years to see the fruits of those moves. i guess you could blame him for failing to correct the shortcomings in those departments first, but a young rookie gm going against well liked and respected professionals is tough. the concept of kapler was a good one, but didn't work out that well here, but think gabe will do good down the road. his major league moves were more misses than hits, did some upgrades to modernize the behind the scenes jobs.

i give him a C- . if someone better comes along i have no problem kicking him to the curb (and no, azrider does not think he is better than him or advocates physical violence in his removal) but i'll wait it out another year or maybe two.

by **Slowhand** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:32:15

I didn't think I'd be this annoyed in a season that will be looked at as a complete joke for every team, but here we are.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:44:38

Squire wrote:BA Mid-Season Farm System Rankings - Phillies 26th out of 30. Wow.

i don't think the system is all that special, but none of these guys have played for almost a year now. who the hell really knows how good or bad it is.

by **Squire** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:45:11

MoBettle wrote:Signing Gosselin and him getting hot for a few weeks might honestly be a top 5-10 move of his tenure. It's one of only a few good trades or signings that wasn't just outbidding other teams for an established MLB player.

Jay Bruce acquisition looking pretty good. But his victories are few and far between.

by **CFP** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:48:30

Missing on Gowdy in 2016 was huge. That whole draft was poor for a lot of teams, but there have been some productive players. We got zilch out of it.

by **WilliamC** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:54:08

That game killed a piece of me.

by **Slowhand** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:09:23

WilliamC wrote:That game killed a piece of me.

There's gotta be very little of you left at this point. :dh:

by **Grotewold** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:10:10

Some interesting stuff on the Phillies Talk pod, with Salisbury interviewing Ruben Amaro Jr. One was that he had talks with Billy Beane about Brett Myers, but Beane worried Myers wouldn't fully mature until he was too expensive for the As.

Said he also loved the way Nola bore down and got tough outs in the biggest games in college, and that he was confident he had the mechanics and savvy to develop a third pitch.

He also took shots at Chris Young and said he was harmful to Vinny and Eflin in particular.

by **Slowhand** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:12:01

Grotewold wrote:Some interesting stuff on the Phillies Talk pod with Salisburg, interviewing Ruben Amaro Jr. One was that he had talks with Billy Beane about Brett Myers, but Beane worried Myers wouldn't fully mature until he was too expensive for the As.

And we're still waiting.

by **WilliamC** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:13:42

Slowhand wrote:
WilliamC wrote:That game killed a piece of me.

There's gotta be very little of you left at this point.

Still enough for another round.

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