Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 14:05:32

Jesus Christ... the AL has a legit shot at having FOUR teams lose 100 games, and it is not entirely out of the question that FIVE teams could hit the century mark in losses:

Detroit 42-100 loser loser cheap ass boozer
Baltimore 46-97 (a mortal lock, need to go 17-2 over final 19 to avoid the ignominy)
Kansas City 53-91 (need to go 10-8 over final 18 to avoid)
Toronto 55-89 (need to go 8-10 over final 18 to avoid)
Seattle 58-86 (need to go 5-13 over final 18 to avoid)

That is some 1910s shit right there. Throw in Miami and you could see SIX 100 loss teams in 2019. Holy fuck.
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Sep 09, 2019 14:07:01

swishnicholson wrote:See now, and the lesson I was going to draw from BigEd's wonderfully researched post was that championships come along for most teams once in a blue moon. So you'd better appreciate each game on it's own merits. If you become fixated on titles won and the "larger significance" of games, you're almost certain to end up disappointed, grumpy or bored most of the time since, let's face it, virtually all of them are "meaningless" in that context. Yet fans of baseball,even of those teams with even less success than the Phillies, still enjoy the game, since even after a lifetime of watching games it's amazing how often you can still be surprised or pleased by something that happens, and you never would have seen if you'd stopped paying attention.


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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 14:15:30

swishnicholson wrote:See now, and the lesson I was going to draw from BigEd's wonderfully researched post was that championships come along for most teams once in a blue moon. So you'd better appreciate each game on it's own merits. If you become fixated on titles won and the "larger significance" of games, you're almost certain to end up disappointed, grumpy or bored most of the time since, let's face it, virtually all of them are "meaningless" in that context. Yet fans of baseball,even of those teams with even less success than the Phillies, still enjoy the game, since even after a lifetime of watching games it's amazing how often you can still be surprised or pleased by something that happens, and you never would have seen if you'd stopped paying attention.


It's going to be glorious watching spoiled Pittsburgh fans realize this if Big Ben is cooked (or they have no top level receivers), once Sidney and Evgeni decline, and the Pirates continue to be the Pirates.

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby philliesphhan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 22:49:25

Stripes wrote:They're WAY over the luxury tax. Paid Eovaldi rather than Kimbrel, and now their bullpen is a mess. When they gave Sale that big extension, I assumed that meant he was healthy. Maybe not so much. Still have to pay Mookie, and eventually Bogaerts and Devers.


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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby philliesphhan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 22:51:01

From the thread I now deleted:

Since Mark Reynolds broke the 200 strikeout barrier back in 2008, every season since except for 2014 has had at least one player with 200 or more strikeouts. Despite HR and strikeout records for MLB this year, it doesn't look like that will be the case this season as the two league leaders, Acuna and Santana, have just 164 and 159 with 20~ games to go. Bryce was stated to be "on pace" for well over 200 earlier in the season but he's at 158, so he still needs 12 just to set a career high for himself.

Of the 9 players to get to 200+, 4 are no longer in the league (Mark Reynolds was just released this season and not signed by anyone else afterward) and Davis will likely never get enough AB to do it again although he somehow almost did in 2017 and 2018 despite playing only 128 games each season.

Moncada, Stanton, Judge, and Gallo didn't play nearly enough games this season to get to 200, so I feel this number is still within reach if these players put their mind to it next season and stay healthy

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby BatFlipsFTW » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:21:03

Polar Bear Phan wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:See now, and the lesson I was going to draw from BigEd's wonderfully researched post was that championships come along for most teams once in a blue moon. So you'd better appreciate each game on it's own merits. If you become fixated on titles won and the "larger significance" of games, you're almost certain to end up disappointed, grumpy or bored most of the time since, let's face it, virtually all of them are "meaningless" in that context. Yet fans of baseball,even of those teams with even less success than the Phillies, still enjoy the game, since even after a lifetime of watching games it's amazing how often you can still be surprised or pleased by something that happens, and you never would have seen if you'd stopped paying attention.


It's going to be glorious watching spoiled Pittsburgh fans realize this if Big Ben is cooked (or they have no top level receivers), once Sidney and Evgeni decline, and the Pirates continue to be the Pirates.


Steelers have been mediocre for a while now. Those diehard Pens will forget the team exist again like after Mario.
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby azrider » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:28:16

BatFlipsFTW wrote:
Polar Bear Phan wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:See now, and the lesson I was going to draw from BigEd's wonderfully researched post was that championships come along for most teams once in a blue moon. So you'd better appreciate each game on it's own merits. If you become fixated on titles won and the "larger significance" of games, you're almost certain to end up disappointed, grumpy or bored most of the time since, let's face it, virtually all of them are "meaningless" in that context. Yet fans of baseball,even of those teams with even less success than the Phillies, still enjoy the game, since even after a lifetime of watching games it's amazing how often you can still be surprised or pleased by something that happens, and you never would have seen if you'd stopped paying attention.


It's going to be glorious watching spoiled Pittsburgh fans realize this if Big Ben is cooked (or they have no top level receivers), once Sidney and Evgeni decline, and the Pirates continue to be the Pirates.


Steelers have been mediocre for a while now. Those diehard Pens will forget the team exist again like after Mario.


they have had just one losing season since 2000 and in that span 12 seasons of 10+ wins including 4 of the last 5. mediocrity?

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby BatFlipsFTW » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:35:48

By Steeler standards yes. Plus the franchise is on a downwards trajectory.
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby azrider » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39:26

BatFlipsFTW wrote:By Steeler standards yes. Plus the franchise is on a downwards trajectory.


1981-1991 that's the very definition of mediocre. 10 years 84-84, four playoffs, three losing seasons.

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby BatFlipsFTW » Tue Sep 10, 2019 13:04:17

azrider wrote:
BatFlipsFTW wrote:By Steeler standards yes. Plus the franchise is on a downwards trajectory.


1981-1991 that's the very definition of mediocre. 10 years 84-84, four playoffs, three losing seasons.


1981-1991 is a time frame. Not a definition of mediocre.
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby stevelxa476 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 13:05:20

azrider wrote:
BatFlipsFTW wrote:By Steeler standards yes. Plus the franchise is on a downwards trajectory.


1981-1991 that's the very definition of mediocre. 10 years 84-84, four playoffs, three losing seasons.


Not to mention the first 37 years of their existence.
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 13:07:42

BatFlipsFTW wrote:
azrider wrote:
BatFlipsFTW wrote:By Steeler standards yes. Plus the franchise is on a downwards trajectory.


1981-1991 that's the very definition of mediocre. 10 years 84-84, four playoffs, three losing seasons.


1981-1991 is a time frame. Not a definition of mediocre.


I get it now - you are a performance art answer to the question "What if Bucky were an asshole?"
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby SwingOnThis » Tue Sep 10, 2019 13:11:05

The Steelers quietly have an outstanding personnel department, they always seem to hit on star players year after year. I don't think much of Tomlin though, i think his coaching holds them back.

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby azrider » Tue Sep 10, 2019 13:28:08

BatFlipsFTW wrote:
azrider wrote:
BatFlipsFTW wrote:By Steeler standards yes. Plus the franchise is on a downwards trajectory.


1981-1991 that's the very definition of mediocre. 10 years 84-84, four playoffs, three losing seasons.


1981-1991 is a time frame. Not a definition of mediocre.


it's ok, i know it's rough for some people.


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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby BatFlipsFTW » Tue Sep 10, 2019 13:46:20

There really is no right or wrong here but like I troll mtcal. You troll me. World keeps on spinning.
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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby azrider » Tue Sep 10, 2019 14:05:06

Nah.... Don't troll you flips, I like ya. I just fuck with you instead. I save the trolling for the people I truly despise. BTW... Still okay to say you're wrong. I've been wrong a lot and in more important things than a message board.

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 18:20:17

MLBStats
Bruce Bochy has managed from 1995-2019.

His current managerial record is 1995-2019.

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 10, 2019 18:39:39

he should resign immediately

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby bleh » Tue Sep 10, 2019 18:54:19

BigEd76 wrote:
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Bruce Bochy has managed from 1995-2019.

His current managerial record is 1995-2019.

.494 winning percentage. Hall of famer!

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Re: Random Baseball News/Discussion: Heading into the 2020s

Postby BatFlipsFTW » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:09:09

azrider wrote:Nah.... Don't troll you flips, I like ya. I just #$!&@ with you instead. I save the trolling for the people I truly despise. BTW... Still okay to say you're wrong. I've been wrong a lot and in more important things than a message board.


If it was a matter of pure objective facts I would say I was wrong but it was a somewhat subjective comment. Based on the Steeler fans I know out here you'd think the franchise has become the Browns or Lions.
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