Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Games

Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Mar 14, 2019 19:00:08

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Mar 14, 2019 19:21:33

Position players are not allowed to pitch unless their team is up or down by 7 runs or it is extra innings. There’s also some nonsense where teams can designate a player as a 2 way player, but in order to do that the player would have to have at least 20 IP or(and?) appeared in 20 games with at least plate appearances.
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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Mar 14, 2019 19:26:27

Nice. XLB.

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 14, 2019 19:55:22

stevelxa476 wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Also increasing roster size to 26 in 2020


September rosters will go from a max of 40 down to 28.



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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Stripes » Thu Mar 14, 2019 20:32:14

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The 3-batter rule has not been written in full yet because it is not in use until 2020, but as currently understood it would apply to extra innings and the postseason. My concern, especially in playoffs, is that in huge spot a pitcher will come in and, say, walk 2 straight on 8 pitches and be forced to stick in for another and potentially determine huge/games titles based on the rule, when the pitcher clearly doesn't have it and should be removed quicker.


If a pitcher comes in with, say, 2 outs, and gets out of the inning before facing the 3 batter minimum, will he be required to come out for the next inning as well? I would hope the end of the inning would over-ride it.
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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby mcare89 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 20:55:18

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The 3-batter rule has not been written in full yet because it is not in use until 2020, but as currently understood it would apply to extra innings and the postseason. My concern, especially in playoffs, is that in huge spot a pitcher will come in and, say, walk 2 straight on 8 pitches and be forced to stick in for another and potentially determine huge/games titles based on the rule, when the pitcher clearly doesn't have it and should be removed quicker.

This is the mentality that led to the 3 batter rule even becoming a potential necessity, no?

Baseball has been micromanaged down to every possible factor, which is why we see a carousel of pitchers every night and have to experience the associated drain of pace from the game itself.

To be clear, I'm not saying the 3 batter rule is the answer but I'm largely in favor of anything that helps reverse some of that. A batter minimum, less/no warmup pitches from the mound, whatever.

I think a couple of the roster manipulation rules they enacted would already cut down on pitcher carousels. Lengthening the DL time for pitchers and requiring pitchers to spend 15 days in the minors between trips cuts down on the amount of available pitchers you have to use in a game every night. It wouldn't be significantly different, but it would reverse some of the effects as to why this became a problem in the last five years where it wasn't for the preceding 30.

I'm not wild about the rule, and I think Sherman's right that we're going to see a situation in a big spot, soon, where a guy clearly shouldn't pitch to the third batter and it ends up costing a team a big game. I don't think it's the end of baseball or anything, but I think it's an overreaction to isolated spots rather than the norm. There are plenty of ways to speed up pitching changes without needing the three batter rule. Modernize your substitution system to allow subs from the dugout rather than making managers walk out to the mound or trade lineup cards with the home plate umpire. Don't take TV timeouts during warmup pitches.

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby mcare89 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 20:55:38

Stripes wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:
Joelsherman1
The 3-batter rule has not been written in full yet because it is not in use until 2020, but as currently understood it would apply to extra innings and the postseason. My concern, especially in playoffs, is that in huge spot a pitcher will come in and, say, walk 2 straight on 8 pitches and be forced to stick in for another and potentially determine huge/games titles based on the rule, when the pitcher clearly doesn't have it and should be removed quicker.


If a pitcher comes in with, say, 2 outs, and gets out of the inning before facing the 3 batter minimum, will he be required to come out for the next inning as well? I would hope the end of the inning would over-ride it.

No, apparently the rule is three batters or the end of the half inning.

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Werthless » Thu Mar 14, 2019 21:01:32

Bill McNeal wrote:Position players are not allowed to pitch unless their team is up or down by 7 runs or it is extra innings. There’s also some nonsense where teams can designate a player as a 2 way player, but in order to do that the player would have to have at least 20 IP or(and?) appeared in 20 games with at least plate appearances.

Fantasy baseball-style... Gotta wait until they play enough games somewhere before you can play him there.

Honestly, what problem are they trying to solve by limiting a position player's time on the mound to blowouts? What do they expect to happen, and why wouldn't it be awesome?

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Wheels Tupay » Thu Mar 14, 2019 21:09:26

I'm guessing the player's union doesn't want position players getting hurt on the mound.
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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 14, 2019 21:10:03

didn't a position player blow out his arm pitching? Maybe the MLBPA is the side pushing for this??

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby smitty » Thu Mar 14, 2019 22:34:08

Bucky wrote:didn't a position player blow out his arm pitching? Maybe the MLBPA is the side pushing for this??


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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Werthless » Fri Mar 15, 2019 07:40:41

They are only willing to risk pitching if the game is a blowout...?

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Bucky » Fri Mar 15, 2019 08:21:24

I've been pondering this, and I guess the feeling is that in non-blowouts the player will be more inclined to try to be a competitive pitcher

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:29:38

I was on the Tweeter trying to see if Bryce had any tongue in cheek reaction to the Trout rumors and for some reason this came up (from 2012) first and it made me laugh

Giancarlo Stanton wrote:Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple


Bryce Harper wrote:@Giancarlo818 you can always come play for the Nats! We will take you anytime! Get some red, white, and blue in your life!


Giancarlo Stanton wrote:@Bharper3407 Dang bro, If only my last name backwards wasn't NotNats!
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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:34:12

slugsrbad wrote:I was on the Tweeter trying to see if Bryce had any tongue in cheek reaction to the Trout rumors and for some reason this came up (from 2012) first and it made me laugh

Giancarlo Stanton wrote:Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple


Bryce Harper wrote:@Giancarlo818 you can always come play for the Nats! We will take you anytime! Get some red, white, and blue in your life!


Giancarlo Stanton wrote:@Bharper3407 Dang bro, If only my last name backwards wasn't NotNats!


That's pretty amazing.
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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05:57

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Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Manny Machado, Nolan Arenado: $1.32 billion worth of contracts just for four guys.

Tampa Bay Rays total payroll in franchise history: $1.01 billion worth of contracts - for 21 seasons!

Fascinating times in baseball.

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Mar 19, 2019 21:36:22

brewers talking to kimbrel.

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Ace Rothstein » Tue Mar 19, 2019 21:49:30

That’s a lot of Ks

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Mar 19, 2019 21:58:37

6/100 for bregman. covers this year, three arbs years and two fa years.

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Re: Random Baseball: Dingers and Bat Flips and Five Hour Gam

Postby Stripes » Wed Mar 20, 2019 13:08:58

ReadingPhilly wrote:brewers talking to kimbrel.


Of course, the only closer I was able to snag in my money league so far is Knebel.
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