Youseff wrote:let JK Simmons be an inspiration to you.

there's a ringer power ranking for you -- j.k., ben, or bill

I don't mind Simmons not working out as long as he's not working out for anyone.

Also, he's doing workouts in Cleveland. Just go to him.

Grotewold wrote:

Youseff wrote:let JK Simmons be an inspiration to you.

there's a ringer power ranking for you -- j.k., ben, or bill

after watching Whiplash and obv having the background of seeing Oz, I talked myself into thinking JK is one of our best actors. I think he should get some roles that would normally be reserved for the Bobby Duvall, Jack Nicholson, Robert Deniro types.

Youseff wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

Youseff wrote:let JK Simmons be an inspiration to you.

there's a ringer power ranking for you -- j.k., ben, or bill

after watching Whiplash and obv having the background of seeing obv, I talked myself into thinking JK is one of our best actors. I think he should get some roles that would normally be reserved for the Bobby Duvall, Jack Nicholson, Robert Deniro types.

so Ben, JK, Bill

Youseff wrote:I talked myself into thinking JK is one of our best actors. I think he should get some roles that would normally be reserved for the Bobby Duvall, Jack Nicholson, Robert Deniro types.

He scared the shit out of me on Oz that first season

Grotewold wrote:

Youseff wrote:I talked myself into thinking JK is one of our best actors. I think he should get some roles that would normally be reserved for the Bobby Duvall, Jack Nicholson, Robert Deniro types.

He scared the shit out of me on Oz that first season

jamiethekiller wrote:yeah. its kinda impressive how big he is compared to the other 3. Town is a pretty big guy and Simmons looks a lot more put together. look at the differences in legs. Towns got some Tyson Chandler shit going on.

good eye

38 second BodCast, just the pick changes every day quote from Sir Collar.

bodner writes about how scared he is that Simmons won't do a workout for the Sixers


mentioned Bazemore in that column!

Fuck Ben, marry JK, kill Bill.

Youseff wrote:think I'm registering about a 1 on an outrage scale of 100 over this Simmons not working out controversy.

One of kyrie, Blake and Anthony Davis didn't work out for the team that selected him number 1. The fact that no one remembers which one it was should tell you how big of a deal this is.

the funniest part is that he already signed his shoe deal, the uncertainty of which was the focus of the slight intimation (trumped up by a misleading headline) of the blurb that started all this noise in the first place

pacino wrote:bodner writes about how scared he is that Simmons won't do a workout for the Sixers


mentioned Bazemore in that column!

Here he tames the WIP Morning Show jackals

love the "he's so smart" sarcasm afterwards, or maybe that's them being sincere but whatever, BODZ owned.

BENDER.

it's all so staged. how can anyone listen to that for more than a 10 minute clip once a month?

gr wrote:love the "he's so smart" sarcasm afterwards, or maybe that's them being sincere but whatever, BODZ owned.

BENDER.

I think it was sincere, but still pretty funny how much they didn't want to believe.

I remember it being the same way when Angelo talked to Bill James a while back. "You're telling me Bobby Abreu didn't sanction the Holocaust?"

SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:

Youseff wrote:

gr wrote:if we somehow got pick #3 for okafor, i kinda want bender because i think noel doesn't stay here past his rookie deal.

He'd be your 4th big man in that scenario - willing to draft a guy number 3 to be your second big man off the bench?

I agree with this logic as well. Can't draft Bender #3 unless you are also going to trade Noel. And I like Noel. So no thanks.

Get the #3 from the Celtics, and then let the next 3-4 teams battle it out for trading up to get Bender. Take the best player left among Dunn, Murray, Hield (in that order) and grab an extra asset.

Circling back to this, I would draft Bender to be the starting center of the future.

Seems like Okafor is getting traded. Just working off the chatter to follow this logic.

As I said, I don't think Noel sticks around. I think he wants to be a starting center (why wouldn't he?). But is he a starting 5 on a championship team? He doesn't really fit at the 4. Not sure how great his stone hands and limited offensive game fit next to Simmons. In anycase, when his contract is up, he will probably have more opportunity with another team.

Saric is Simmons backup, maybe spends little time at the 3.

That leaves Embiid. I want to believe as much as anyone in his greatness, but I'm just not sure that's really deserved at this point. He's going to be on a minutes restriction this year, and I'm starting to talk myself out of his ability to be a 80 games, 30+ minutes player. My whole desire to draft Bender hinges on Embiid's "reality" let's say. I guess I just think that until I see it, it's irresponsible to believe it.

So, I don't think it's crazy to draft Bender. There's an argument against it, but I don't think that argument is "well, we already have guys". He's not just a elite talent as are the guys we have in certain areas of their games, he's a more complete talent, and is possibly an elite fit in multiple ways with multiple guys.

Plus, Dunn, Murray, Hield et.al. don't seem like starting caliber players to me. So, you're still using #3 on a bench player if you go one of those routes.

Just sayin' is all.

Grotewold wrote:

gr wrote:love the "he's so smart" sarcasm afterwards, or maybe that's them being sincere but whatever, BODZ owned.

BENDER.

I think it was sincere, but still pretty funny how much they didn't want to believe.

I remember it being the same way when Angelo talked to Bill James a while back. "You're telling me Bobby Abreu didn't sanction the Holocaust?"

I liked when he said there's never been someone known for his passing go number 1. Apparently he's never heard of Magic Johnson.

Noel can definitely be the starting center on a serious contender, imo (I guess that means "championship team," I just think that term is unnecessarily limiting since dozens of hall of famers will never play on a championship team)

I constantly hear that his skillset is easily replaced but the only guy in this draft who approaches his ability is maybe Deyonta Davis

I think Bender is a PF and is way more of an unknown at this point than Embiid. At least Embiid has demonstrated he's got elite skills.

gr wrote:

SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:

Youseff wrote:

gr wrote:if we somehow got pick #3 for okafor, i kinda want bender because i think noel doesn't stay here past his rookie deal.

He'd be your 4th big man in that scenario - willing to draft a guy number 3 to be your second big man off the bench?

I agree with this logic as well. Can't draft Bender #3 unless you are also going to trade Noel. And I like Noel. So no thanks.

Get the #3 from the Celtics, and then let the next 3-4 teams battle it out for trading up to get Bender. Take the best player left among Dunn, Murray, Hield (in that order) and grab an extra asset.

Circling back to this, I would draft Bender to be the starting center of the future.

Seems like Okafor is getting traded. Just working off the chatter to follow this logic.

As I said, I don't think Noel sticks around. I think he wants to be a starting center (why wouldn't he?). But is he a starting 5 on a championship team? He doesn't really fit at the 4. Not sure how great his stone hands and limited offensive game fit next to Simmons. In anycase, when his contract is up, he will probably have more opportunity with another team.

Saric is Simmons backup, maybe spends little time at the 3.

That leaves Embiid. I want to believe as much as anyone in his greatness, but I'm just not sure that's really deserved at this point. He's going to be on a minutes restriction this year, and I'm starting to talk myself out of his ability to be a 80 games, 30+ minutes player. My whole desire to draft Bender hinges on Embiid's "reality" let's say. I guess I just think that until I see it, it's irresponsible to believe it.

So, I don't think it's crazy to draft Bender. There's an argument against it, but I don't think that argument is "well, we already have guys". He's not just a elite talent as are the guys we have in certain areas of their games, he's a more complete talent, and is possibly an elite fit in multiple ways with multiple guys.

Plus, Dunn, Murray, Hield et.al. don't seem like starting caliber players to me. So, you're still using #3 on a bench player if you go one of those routes.

Just sayin' is all.