Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Youseff » Thu Jun 13, 2013 13:37:31



does not seem like Bynum is a possibility from that Doc interview
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Jun 13, 2013 14:16:04

saw this

Since May 14th, the day new general manager Sam Hinkie was hired. There's been lot's of talk about his method and approach. Hinkie's approach to the game revolves around a method called "Analytics". So, how will this new method help the Sixers? Will it save them a few millions for each season? Would it be trying to find a bargain on cheap players and hope to receive quality production? Reminds me of the old Ed Stefanski Era. You're not going to win that way, and lot's of old school coaches like Larry Brown for example aren't in favor for that method of managing an NBA team. Sure you might save some money for cheaper options than going for the big deals like Josh Smith, Dwight Howard, and Chris Paul, who are all expected to be free agents once the season is all over. In the mind of an All-Star player, I would not play for a team with a general manager who uses metrics and analytics.

That may help you in business terms, but may hurt you in trying to flourish as a team trying to eventually contend for a title. I'm not saying go out every summer and sign every big name on the market. You may need a few extra million to make some moves for depth on the roster, and won't do much good if you're on the other end of the salary cap paying luxury tax. One questionable thing in Hinkie's method is, why are we still without a coach? Hinkie has been narrowing down prospects for the upcoming draft on June 27th, to find the right guy to draft come draft night. But, what sense does it make to work out prospects without a head coach, if you don't know what style of basketball you want let alone need? If they're to make some splashes in free agency this year, somebody has to be moved.

Because they're $12 million under the salary cap, and that doesn't leave them much wiggle room if they're to expect to sign Josh Smith, let alone Dwight Howard. Some players will have to be moved in order for them to make some major moves. Say a guy like Jason Richardson who's expected to be owed $12,805,375 in the next two seasons with there being a player option involved in the final year of that deal. Richardson is expected to earn $6,204,250 in the upcoming 2013-2014 season.

It's seem highly unlikely and difficult to move a player who can't seem to stay healthy with that kind of contract. Though, Richardson's contract alone may not be enough. I say it will take at least two-three moves to make space for them to make a splash in free agency to sign a big time player to receive quality service. Though, nobody on the current roster is an untouchable. Not even All-Star player Jrue Holiday. Jrue would be a spectacular player to build around, which is something I would do, but he's going to have to learn to not turn the ball over. If Richardson is to stay, all we can do is hope and pray that Orlando didn't dope us as well in the deal like Los Angeles did with Andrew Bynum.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jun 13, 2013 14:28:25

I'm concerned about the coaching situation, but perhaps it's a Spurs or Miami guy. If it's not, then I agree a coach should have already been hired.

I think the point the writer makes about Hinkie's approach is a fair one, but it's also possible that on the one hand Hinkie will run a tight ship generally from a business standpoint, but won't be afraid to make the big move if necessary to get the team over the hump, even if it's questionable from a business standpoint. The two approaches aren't mutually exclusive.
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Youseff » Thu Jun 13, 2013 14:30:56

sounds like a drunk dude talking
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jun 13, 2013 14:38:45

Like that disqualifies anyone around here.
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Barry Jive » Thu Jun 13, 2013 15:06:58

you have no idea how many times I've woken up to a Quick Reply box full of unsubmitted text in a Sixers thread
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Youseff » Thu Jun 13, 2013 15:26:05

JFLNYC wrote:Like that disqualifies anyone around here.


no I mean the text Housh quoted
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jun 13, 2013 15:39:57

I know.
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 13, 2013 16:20:57

J-Mitch will no longer be covering the Sixers

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/owls ... -beat.html

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Jun 13, 2013 16:21:57

thank god

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Napalm » Thu Jun 13, 2013 16:23:54

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Napalm » Thu Jun 13, 2013 16:24:47

is keith pompey any good?

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Jun 13, 2013 16:27:19

comments on that link suggest the Temple fans liked him

but really the only way is up

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Barry Jive » Thu Jun 13, 2013 16:45:23

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 13, 2013 17:06:14

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby bleh » Thu Jun 13, 2013 17:33:36

Houshphandzadeh wrote:saw this

Since May 14th, the day new general manager Sam Hinkie was hired. There's been lot's of talk about his method and approach. Hinkie's approach to the game revolves around a method called "Analytics". So, how will this new method help the Sixers? Will it save them a few millions for each season? Would it be trying to find a bargain on cheap players and hope to receive quality production? Reminds me of the old Ed Stefanski Era. You're not going to win that way, and lot's of old school coaches like Larry Brown for example aren't in favor for that method of managing an NBA team. Sure you might save some money for cheaper options than going for the big deals like Josh Smith, Dwight Howard, and Chris Paul, who are all expected to be free agents once the season is all over. In the mind of an All-Star player, I would not play for a team with a general manager who uses metrics and analytics.

That may help you in business terms, but may hurt you in trying to flourish as a team trying to eventually contend for a title. I'm not saying go out every summer and sign every big name on the market. You may need a few extra million to make some moves for depth on the roster, and won't do much good if you're on the other end of the salary cap paying luxury tax. One questionable thing in Hinkie's method is, why are we still without a coach? Hinkie has been narrowing down prospects for the upcoming draft on June 27th, to find the right guy to draft come draft night. But, what sense does it make to work out prospects without a head coach, if you don't know what style of basketball you want let alone need? If they're to make some splashes in free agency this year, somebody has to be moved.

Because they're $12 million under the salary cap, and that doesn't leave them much wiggle room if they're to expect to sign Josh Smith, let alone Dwight Howard. Some players will have to be moved in order for them to make some major moves. Say a guy like Jason Richardson who's expected to be owed $12,805,375 in the next two seasons with there being a player option involved in the final year of that deal. Richardson is expected to earn $6,204,250 in the upcoming 2013-2014 season.

It's seem highly unlikely and difficult to move a player who can't seem to stay healthy with that kind of contract. Though, Richardson's contract alone may not be enough. I say it will take at least two-three moves to make space for them to make a splash in free agency to sign a big time player to receive quality service. Though, nobody on the current roster is an untouchable. Not even All-Star player Jrue Holiday. Jrue would be a spectacular player to build around, which is something I would do, but he's going to have to learn to not turn the ball over. If Richardson is to stay, all we can do is hope and pray that Orlando didn't dope us as well in the deal like Los Angeles did with Andrew Bynum.

Bleacher reports? I like how he speculates what "analytics" means, then in the next sentence immediately decides that his speculation is what it is and that it won't work.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Eddie Jordan » Thu Jun 13, 2013 17:39:11

Hinkie seems really smart, I trust him to build a roster and maneuver his way around the salary cap. He comes off as socially awkward in a big way from what I've seen though. Being able to bullshit seems like part of the FO gig. I hope he's not afraid of using the telephone to call up potential coaches

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby MoBettle » Thu Jun 13, 2013 17:45:14

He thinks Hinkie was brought in to save money? That's weird.
Two days later I get a text back that says I'm a basketball player and a businessman, not a Thundercat.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Barry Jive » Thu Jun 13, 2013 17:46:00

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