Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Woody » Wed Dec 14, 2016 22:22:33

Grotewold wrote:I prefer my Russian espionage with Keri Russell


Come for the espionage. Stay for the surprise 69
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby The Dude » Wed Dec 14, 2016 22:25:03

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Dec 14, 2016 23:46:53

Lindsay Graham saying he was hacked too.

Idk, this seems so far reaching and insane. Trump will be president I guess, but what a fucking shit show.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Bucky » Thu Dec 15, 2016 07:48:00

pullin the 'ol "Spartacus"

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby The Savior » Thu Dec 15, 2016 08:13:23

The incompetence here is alarming.

Obamas failure to act here is astounding.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Dec 15, 2016 08:30:24

The Savior wrote:The incompetence here is alarming.

Obamas failure to act here is astounding.


This is the first salvo is a major new offensive. The question is what the right measure is. A tit for tat could spin out of control, and anything vulnerable could be attacked (power sources in winter, dams, what have you) rather arbitrarily. Look what the IoT exploit did a few weeks ago, and that is suspected to have happened more or less by accident (i.e., unintended consequences). So fighting a new war is tricky, dangerous business. I read somewhere that it has been advocated that exposing Putin's wealth built on the backs of his pauper countrymen could be an avenue, but that same article said that the Russians expect that their leaders are massively corrupt so it would not even be a drop in the ocean. The best outcome from that is to scare off businesses from dealing with him and his corrupt enterprises. As much measure and care that is necessary, when the action is taken, we need to be ready for the next stage. I am not sure that the US citizenry is, nor am I sure that the gravity of this is understood in the least by the masses. Hell, just look how effective the information campaign was against a significant percentage of population (just not a majority).
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Dec 15, 2016 08:46:20

Hmmmm..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cia ... 9c3dfe722e


You know what would be more horrifying than russians hacking our election? Some part of the US intelligence agency doing it and making us think it was the russians.

Not saying that's what happened, just thinking out loud.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 15, 2016 08:51:22

he doesn't really seem to say anything in that article other than he doesn't trust the CIA

just to attack the messenger for fun: i'm surprised he was able to type that in between soliciting minors.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Dec 15, 2016 09:10:28

pacino wrote:he doesn't really seem to say anything in that article other than he doesn't trust the CIA

just to attack the messenger for fun: i'm surprised he was able to type that in between soliciting minors.



yikes, did not know he was caught doing anything like that.

Like I said, it was more of a thinking out loud thing. That's the one thing that would be worse than the russians doing it.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 15, 2016 09:11:49

Yeah, a US department putting their thumb on the scale in a US election would be very noteworthy.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Dec 15, 2016 09:14:31

I see what you did there.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 15, 2016 09:25:14

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 15, 2016 09:42:47

i only do this to note the amount of time between tweets

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago
If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House waite so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 14m14 minutes ago
The media tries so hard to make my move to the White House, as it pertains to my business, so complex - when actually it isn't!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 33m33 minutes ago
Thank you to Time Magazine and Financial Times for naming me "Person of the Year" - a great honor!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 36m36 minutes ago
Has anyone looked at the really poor numbers of @VanityFair Magazine. Way down, big trouble, dead! Graydon Carter, no talent, will be out!


VF gave a bad reviewto his crappy Grill in Trump Tower. It was a classic food critic overreaction to stuff, but that's the norm. this thin-skinned puppet has directed his masses to attack VF now. this'll probably be some fake controversy now.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby CFP » Thu Dec 15, 2016 09:45:45

I'm 80% sure he was involved in/had knowledge of the hacking at this point. My confidence increases daily.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:04:53

All of these questions only underscore the need for a full and complete investigation. If the players in this game would all simply take off their partisan hats for a moment and just be Americans, it's all very simple: Our system was hacked during the elections by someone(s) and confidential material was released to the public. Whether it was the Russians, the Chinese or Trump's fat guy on a bed, it needs a thorough investigation.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:05:07

File under "The Internet Never Forgets, & Other Things Flynn Does Not Understand"

Michael Flynn quietly deletes fake news tweet(s) about Hillary Clinton


BTW, it was only 6 days ago that this gem turned up (from a Turnip):

To set the record straight, this was apparently said in August, but returned to the news cycle.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby td11 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:11:31

A hearty FUCK YOU to the north Carolina gop
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby JUburton » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:18:58

td11 wrote:A hearty FUCK YOU to the north Carolina gop
i think we should burn more offices down

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:22:07

what they are doing is so blatantly disgusting. does it have a good chance to succeed?

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:34:22

for those not following the news:
A House bill would force Cooper to take his Cabinet choices to the Senate to get confirmed and would remove the governor’s appointments to trustee boards at University of North Carolina system schools. The state Constitution gives the Senate authority to confirm a governor’s choices to boards and commissions, but that power has been latent.

Rep. David Lewis, R-Harnett, a primary sponsor of the confirmation bill, said he didn’t know whether it would have been considered had McCrory been re-elected. But for decades, he said, “The legislature elected to not exercise that constitutional responsibility. We simply are going to choose to exercise it.”

Lewis’ measure also would reduce the number of executive branch employees not subject to state job protections that Cooper could hire from 1,500 to 300. These workers are often policy makers who are politically allied with a governor.

A bill filed by Senate Republicans would merge the State Board of Elections and State Ethics Commission when the new year begins, revive partisan elections for the state Supreme Court and Court of Appeals and let McCrory pick the next Industrial Commission chairman for the next four years. Another bill would confirm the nomination of McCrory state budget director Andrew Heath to a Superior Court judgeship.

Committee meetings were scheduled Thursday to consider some of the legislation.

House Democrats were furious about the new special session, saying Republicans used the disasters as pretense for a power grab before Cooper takes office. They called it a violation of the state constitution. GOP lawmakers used a constitutional tool requiring the signatures of three-fifths of House and Senate members to hold their own session. They vowwd to take the matter to court, reports CBS Raleigh, North Carolina affiliate WNCN-TV.\
“This is why people don’t trust us, this is why they hate us ... because of this right here - using hurricane relief as the reason to come back to Raleigh to do a lot of things because you lost an election by 10,000 votes,” Rep. Darren Jackson, D-Wake, said on the House floor.
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