thephan wrote:Who has the better surrogate?

Pres. Obama
Mrs. Obama
Former Pres. Billy
VP Biden
Junk yard dog Warren
Cast of recognizable celebs

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Pence
Lyin' Ted
Rookie wife with side kick Indiana First Lardy
Crazy Rudy
Disgraced Christie

pacino wrote:Melania said as a 10 year old she was inspired by Ronald Reagan's election.

pacino wrote:Melania said as a 10 year old she was inspired by Ronald Reagan's election.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:Melania said as a 10 year old she was inspired by Ronald Reagan's election.

The Soviet Union was well-known for its favorable coverage of Reagan's election.

jerseyhoya wrote: I mean, it's probably bullshit, but I don't know much about her family so I dunno.

thephan wrote:Melania speech leak:

I have lived under a brutal dictator most of my life in my home country. When I came to visit America to model legally, going home and coming back to assure I was legal, I met someone who reminded me of home, Donald. He loves Russian culture and has many strong Russian man friends. He is like home. He told me to tell you to vote for him because he is not the man you think he is.

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Although I was trying to be snarkey, she weirdly hit some of these things at the start of her speech. I had to check out when the crowd was chanting YES, YES, YES.

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: I mean, it's probably bullshit, but I don't know much about her family so I dunno.

No. No, you KNOW it's bullshit. or as they say in the old country, boool sheet

Jelančič remembers Melania’s father, Viktor, spending every Saturday lovingly washing his antique Mercedes, another rarity. “It was like a ritual,” Jelančič tells me. After leaving his job working for the mayor of Hrastnik, Viktor, then a member of the Slovenian Communist Party, became a salesman at a state-owned car company. Police files from the time indicate Viktor aroused suspicion for illicit trade and tax evasion in 1976. (He was charged with a tax offense, though his record was later cleared on account of Slovenia’s statute of limitations, a process the courts described to me as “legal rehabilitations.”) Melania blocked my efforts to speak to Viktor, and she denies that any such investigation took place. “He was never under any investigation, he was never in trouble,” she snaps. “We have a clean past. I don’t have nothing to hide.”
While working for the car company in Ljubljana, Viktor had an apartment there, in one of the city’s first residential high-rises. It was a prestigious address and provided the girls a place to stay in the capital so that they could attend design school—another luxury. Meanwhile, in Sevnica, a place where most people still lived in drab apartments doled out to them by their factories, Viktor managed to build a house situated in what was considered the toniest part of town.

Youseff wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: I mean, it's probably #$!&@, but I don't know much about her family so I dunno.

No. No, you KNOW it's #$!&@. or as they say in the old country, boool sheet

Schwarzenegger had a similarly fake moment talking about seeing commie boots on the ground in Austria. I think it must be GOP speech writing basics stuff. If you're a Eastern European make sure you talk about how much Reagan was good for you.

Houshphandzadeh wrote:

Youseff wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: I mean, it's probably #$!&@, but I don't know much about her family so I dunno.

No. No, you KNOW it's #$!&@. or as they say in the old country, boool sheet

Schwarzenegger had a similarly fake moment talking about seeing commie boots on the ground in Austria. I think it must be GOP speech writing basics stuff. If you're a Eastern European make sure you talk about how much Reagan was good for you.

Austria was occupied while he was a kid, wasn't it?

Historians criticized Arnold Schwarzenegger (search) for telling the Republican National Convention (search) that he left a "socialist" country when he moved away in 1968, noting that Austria had conservative leaders during the entire time he lived there.

Some also were doubtful about Schwarzenegger's remark that he saw Soviet tanks as a child, since he lived in an Austrian region occupied by British troops after World War II (search).

Still, the questions about the California governor's memories of his homeland aren't likely to dampen his enduring popularity among Austrians who admire him for rising from a penniless immigrant to become an international movie star and the highest official in America's most populous state.

In his convention address Tuesday, Schwarzenegger said: "As a kid, I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left" in 1955 and Austria regained its independence.

But Austria was governed by coalition governments that included the conservative People's Party and the liberal Social Democratic Party, Martin Polaschek, a law history scholar and vice rector of Graz University, told the Vienna newspaper Kurier.

Between 1945 and 1970, all the nation's chancellors were conservatives — not socialists. And when Schwarzenegger left in 1968, Austria was run by a conservative government headed by People's Party Chancellor Josef Klaus (search), a staunch Roman Catholic and a sharp critic of both the socialists and the communists ruling in countries across the Iron Curtain.

Gimpy wrote:Wonder if they ever landed on a tarmac under heavy sniper fire.

Eric Trump said on Thursday that former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke deserves "a bullet."

"Ross, it's disgusting and by the way, if I said exactly what you said, I'd get killed for it but I think I'll say it anyway," the Republican nominee's son said after host Ross Kaminsky of 630 KHOW Denver radio suggested Duke deserves a bullet to the head. "The guy does deserve a bullet. I mean, these aren't good people. These are horrible people. In fact, I commend my father. My father's the first Republican who's gone out and said, 'Listen, what's happened to the African-American community is horrible and I'm going to take care of it.'"

Youseff wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:

Youseff wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: I mean, it's probably #$!&@, but I don't know much about her family so I dunno.

No. No, you KNOW it's #$!&@. or as they say in the old country, boool sheet

Schwarzenegger had a similarly fake moment talking about seeing commie boots on the ground in Austria. I think it must be GOP speech writing basics stuff. If you're a Eastern European make sure you talk about how much Reagan was good for you.

Austria was occupied while he was a kid, wasn't it?

I vaguely remember the controversy but here's what came up when I googled it

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/09/03 ... ioned.html

Historians criticized Arnold Schwarzenegger (search) for telling the Republican National Convention (search) that he left a "socialist" country when he moved away in 1968, noting that Austria had conservative leaders during the entire time he lived there.

Some also were doubtful about Schwarzenegger's remark that he saw Soviet tanks as a child, since he lived in an Austrian region occupied by British troops after World War II (search).

Still, the questions about the California governor's memories of his homeland aren't likely to dampen his enduring popularity among Austrians who admire him for rising from a penniless immigrant to become an international movie star and the highest official in America's most populous state.

In his convention address Tuesday, Schwarzenegger said: "As a kid, I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left" in 1955 and Austria regained its independence.

But Austria was governed by coalition governments that included the conservative People's Party and the liberal Social Democratic Party, Martin Polaschek, a law history scholar and vice rector of Graz University, told the Vienna newspaper Kurier.

Between 1945 and 1970, all the nation's chancellors were conservatives — not socialists. And when Schwarzenegger left in 1968, Austria was run by a conservative government headed by People's Party Chancellor Josef Klaus (search), a staunch Roman Catholic and a sharp critic of both the socialists and the communists ruling in countries across the Iron Curtain.

pacino wrote:her father:

Jelančič remembers Melania’s father, Viktor, spending every Saturday lovingly washing his antique Mercedes, another rarity. “It was like a ritual,” Jelančič tells me. After leaving his job working for the mayor of Hrastnik, Viktor, then a member of the Slovenian Communist Party, became a salesman at a state-owned car company. Police files from the time indicate Viktor aroused suspicion for illicit trade and tax evasion in 1976. (He was charged with a tax offense, though his record was later cleared on account of Slovenia’s statute of limitations, a process the courts described to me as “legal rehabilitations.”) Melania blocked my efforts to speak to Viktor, and she denies that any such investigation took place. “He was never under any investigation, he was never in trouble,” she snaps. “We have a clean past. I don’t have nothing to hide.”
While working for the car company in Ljubljana, Viktor had an apartment there, in one of the city’s first residential high-rises. It was a prestigious address and provided the girls a place to stay in the capital so that they could attend design school—another luxury. Meanwhile, in Sevnica, a place where most people still lived in drab apartments doled out to them by their factories, Viktor managed to build a house situated in what was considered the toniest part of town.