Grabbing POLITICS by the sissy

by **JFLNYC** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:51:29

If Hillary looks bad for staying with her sexual super predator husband how does that make sexual super predator Donald look?

Isn't it possible that, in addition to her crass political motives, she also stays with Bill because she loves and is committed to him? I refuse to condemn someone for honoring his or her marriage vows, and that includes Melania Trump. There's no trick to loving somebody when times are good.

by **Youseff** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:52:19

it makes Trump look horrible but he's lost. I'm thinking about what happens after he loses horribly in a few weeks.

by **Youseff** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:53:31

JFLNYC wrote:
Isn't it possible that, in addition to her crass political motives, she also stays with Bill because she loves and is committed to him? I refuse to condemn someone for honoring his or her marriage vows, and that includes Melania Trump. There's no trick to loving somebody when times are good.

& also pacino

if he is a sexual predator than the above is some equivocating, trying to make sure you side wins and truth be damned bullshit.

by **td11** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:55:21

@AP
BREAKING: Trump says he has evidence to disprove allegations of sexual assault, will release it at `appropriate time'

Lol

by **pacino** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:56:12

Youseff wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
Isn't it possible that, in addition to her crass political motives, she also stays with Bill because she loves and is committed to him? I refuse to condemn someone for honoring his or her marriage vows, and that includes Melania Trump. There's no trick to loving somebody when times are good.

& also pacino

if he is a sexual predator than the above is some equivocating, trying to make sure you side wins and truth be damned #$!&@.

not really? perhaps she loves him and is screwed up in the head by it. i see it everyday. i'm not 'trying to make sure my side wins', i'm simply giving a possible reason a spouse would stay with a spouse despite outsiders deeming it wrong.

anyway, all of this was litigated in public opinion 15-25 years ago. it didn't work then, it won't work now. IF she is elected she will work on her agenda and nothing about Bill Clinton will really matter when she and Congress begin work (i'm assuming the latter will attempt to work).

by **The Dude** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:56:46

My point wasnt that this is hillary being bad, just horrible about what is being talked about

by **The Dude** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 19:58:51

Tbf, no, this latest thing with proof (if real) was not discussed 15 years ago

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:06:34

td11 wrote:@AP
BREAKING: Trump says he has evidence to disprove allegations of sexual assault, will release it at `appropriate time'

Lol

My campaign is imploding like the fucking Hindenberg, and I have this evidence that would help me greatly, but I'm gonna hang on to it just now until timing is more appropriate. Believe me!

by **pacino** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:08:41

The Dude wrote:Tbf, no, this latest thing with proof (if real) was not discussed 15 years ago

perhaps if it's real it will be a big deal.

anyway, i would hope it's not (13 yr olds do not deserve sexual advances from adults) and Bill can go tend the fucking WH garden and stay out of the way.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:11:57

pacino wrote:not really? perhaps she loves him and is screwed up in the head by it. i see it everyday.

you don't think that would speak to character?

by **pacino** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:14:07

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
pacino wrote:not really? perhaps she loves him and is screwed up in the head by it. i see it everyday.

you don't think that would speak to character?

i know plenty of people who i think of as good people that are in screwed up relationships, so not really, no.

by **pacino** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:15:35

jerseyhoya wrote:
td11 wrote:@AP
BREAKING: Trump says he has evidence to disprove allegations of sexual assault, will release it at `appropriate time'

Lol

My campaign is imploding like the #$!&@ Hindenberg, and I have this evidence that would help me greatly, but I'm gonna hang on to it just now until timing is more appropriate. Believe me!

he reminds me of this

by **JFLNYC** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:16:58

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
pacino wrote:not really? perhaps she loves him and is screwed up in the head by it. i see it everyday.

you don't think that would speak to character?

You don't think it speaks to the character of a person who abandons a spouse when things are worst? Who are any of us to judge another's decision to stand with a loved one when times are bad?

by **The Dude** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:18:14

weird hypotheticals, but "looking past molesting a 13 year old" is a weird one to stand by

by **Youseff** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:32:20

yeah, really. gonna have a hard time trusting pacino & Jamie's objectivity ever again moving forward.

by **drsmooth** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:47:14

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
pacino wrote:not really? perhaps she loves him and is screwed up in the head by it. i see it everyday.

you don't think that would speak to character?

love is a motherfucker. It's a great thing, but it's easy to get the idea it's an unalloyed great thing, every day, for the people it touches. Oh, no. Oh, fuck no.

by **drsmooth** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:51:20

The Dude wrote:weird hypotheticals, but "looking past molesting a 13 year old" is a weird one to stand by

you've put "looking past molesting a 13 year old" as if you're quoting someone. Who are you quoting? Because I may have missed it but no one - except you - has used that phrase here.

by **The Dude** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 20:56:35

that's the rumor of what Anonymous has. So in the hypothethicals posed by pac and JFL above, they are saying standing by a loved one in difficult times is common and understandable. If what Anonymous has is true, as i said in these hypotethicals, that is a pretty strong stance to take.

by **pacino** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 21:00:32

Youseff wrote:yeah, really. gonna have a hard time trusting pacino & Jamie's objectivity ever again moving forward.

Ok?

I'm not dealing with that because we don't actually know anything.

by **Youseff** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 21:14:49

pacino wrote:
Youseff wrote:yeah, really. gonna have a hard time trusting pacino & Jamie's objectivity ever again moving forward.

Ok?

I'm not dealing with that because we don't actually know anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXdpTSLn2dM

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