Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Aug 24, 2016 07:22:02

swishnicholson wrote:
It's kind of fascinating. It's like a toddler first exploring the world outside.


feel like it's more like a specific kid, a few years older:

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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Aug 24, 2016 07:49:06

I just continue to be shocked that our politicians engage in taking money for their campaigns in exchange for access and favors and that they don't always tell the truth. Who knew such a state of affairs existed?
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 07:55:41

pacino wrote:Wikileaks pushing Vince Foster rumors and Clinton is sick rumors.

Also published data outing a gay man in Saudi Arabia, info of sick children and rape victims
They deny everything on twitter. The only outlet that is defending them of note? Russia Today!

Paul Dietrich, a transparency activist, told the AP that a partial scan of the Saudi cables alone turned up more than 500 passport, identity, academic or employment files.

Lisa Lynch, who teaches media and communications at Drew University and has followed WikiLeaks for years, said Assange may not have had the staff or the resources to properly vet what he published. Or maybe he felt that the urgency of his mission trumped privacy concerns. “For him the ends justify the means,” she said.
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:01:08

Assange is a heroic truth-teller. I'm confident his cache of goodies exposing Putin will be released any day now
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:03:13

I feel like many people have taken their feelings about Manning or Snowden and pushed them onto Assange and Wikileaks without realizing they aren't nearly the same.
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:36:47

JH, does this help in the maybe he is using campaign funds to make a profit?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -book.html

On May 10, the Trump campaign paid Barnes & Noble $55,055, according to a filing with the Federal Election Commission. That amounts to more than 3,500 copies of the hardcover version of Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again, or just over 5,000 copies of the renamed paperback release, Great Again: How to Fix Our Crippled America.



“It’s fine for a candidate’s book to be purchased by his committee, but it’s impermissible to receive royalties from the publisher,” Ryan said. “That amounts to an illegal conversion of campaign funds to personal use. There’s a well established precedent from the FEC that funds from the campaign account can’t end up in your own pocket.”

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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:36:54

was reading an article about how the Trump campaign paid retail for his own book to give away at the convention and if he keeps royalties from it then it could be illegal

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -book.html


was about to give up reading the whole article since it was small potatoes ($55K worth of books) and came across this WTF?! moment

A spokesperson for the Republican nominee told The Daily Beast the books were purchased “as part of gifting at the convention, which we have to do.” Sure enough, delegates in attendance at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July were given canvas tote bags, stamped with the Trump slogan, and filled with copies of Crippled America, as well as Kleenex and Make America Great Again! cups, hats, and T-shirts. Delegates were also given plastic fetus figurines.


:shock: :shock: :shock:


(edit- Calvin posted link as I was creating my own post)
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:44:08

yep-

that was a thing

http://mashable.com/2016/07/21/conventi ... ttYTX5aEqj


I wonder how many were disposed of?
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby Phred » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:50:13

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Gideon Resnick ‏@GideonResnick
Trump gave $100k to the Clinton Foundation in 2009 while she was Secretary of State. http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_ ... _990PF.pdf

"Trump is listed on the Clinton Foundation's donor page as having given somewhere between $100,001 and $250,000"


Donates to Clinton Foundation and then appears on the Presidential Ballot. Pay to play.
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:50:39

Al Gore wrote:First of all I understand their feelings and misgivings. But if they are interested in my personal advice. I am voting for Hillary Clinton. I urge everyone else to do the same.
I particularly urge anyone who is concerned about the climate crisis, sees it as the kind of priority that I see it as, to look at the sharp contrast between the solar plan that Secretary Clinton has put forward, and her stated commitment to support the Clean Power Plan, and the contrast between what she has said and is proposing with the statements of the Republican nominee, which give me great concern.
I would also urge them to look carefully, as I know they have, at the consequences of going in another direction for the third or fourth alternative…. The harsh reality is that we have two principal choices. And I am supporting Hillary Clinton.
Again I respect those who analyze the situation differently, but in my experience it matters a lot.
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:53:41

I said earlier that Noam Chomsky would be called a sellout:

Stein, making an appearance at the National Press Club in Washington, took her campaign on an unexpected detour when she accused the famed leftist Noam Chomsky of being cowardly. The 87-year-old icon of the left, though a backer of Stein’s, has said that the only “rational choice” for swing-state voters is to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.

“How do you get past that hurdle?” Sam Husseini from VotePact, a group that supports third parties, asked Stein from the audience.

The candidate, in reply, accused Chomsky of embracing “this politics of fear that tells you you have to vote against what you’re afraid of rather than for what you truly believe. So, Noam Chomsky has supported me in my home state, you know, when he felt safe to do so. I think it’s fair to say my agenda is far closer to his than Hillary Clinton. But he subscribes to the politics of fear.”
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Aug 24, 2016 08:56:27

The big question is whether those plastic fetus figurines are bobble heads.
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 09:16:18

Likely voter poll from Aug 18-22 from Reuters/Ipsos
Clinton 41
Trump 33
Johnson 7
Stein 2
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 24, 2016 09:38:01

Papa Bill now getting tied up in the Ailes/Fox sexual harassment suits


https://thinkprogress.org/the-explosive ... .q8a3o3tu1


C]ommencing in February 2016, Bill O’Reilly (“O’Reilly”), whom Tantaros had considered to be a good friend and a person from whom she sought career guidance, started sexually harassing her by, inter alia, (a) asking her to come to stay with him on Long Island where it would be “very private,” and (b) telling her on more than one occasion that he could “see [her] as a wild girl,” and that he believed that she had a “wild side.” Fox News did take one action: plainly because of O’Reilly’s rumored prior sexual harassment issues and in recognition of Tantaros’s complaints, Brandi informed Cane that Tantaros would no longer be appearing on O’Reilly’s Fox News show, The O’Reilly Factor.
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 24, 2016 09:41:47

pacino wrote:Likely voter poll from Aug 18-22 from Reuters/Ipsos
Clinton 41
Trump 33
Johnson 7
Stein 2



also new Missouri poll

Trump 44 Clinton 43 Johnson 8 Other 1
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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 09:48:25

Filipino 'justice':

Dela Rosa also faced grilling from Sen. Antonio Trillanes about the police response to 1,160 drug-related killings that have occurred since the beginning of July. Many of those have been attributed to vigilantes.
The police chief said the cases are under investigation and he's encouraging officers to fast-track them. He insisted the police were not involved in the deaths. "We have nothing to do with the vigilante killings."
The nation's top officer, who was elevated to the role when his longtime friend, confidante and colleague Duterte was elected, testified that his officers had arrested 10,153 drug pushers and users since the crackdown began.
In 6,000 police operations, 756 people have so far been killed, he said, and as a result of the raids, drugs worth $51 million (2.38 billion pesos) have been seized. CNN could not independently verify the figures the government provided.

"Duterte is steamrolling the rule of law and its advocates both at home and abroad," said Phelim Kine, deputy director for Human Rights Watch's Asia Division.
"He has declared the soaring number of killings of alleged criminal suspects as proof of the 'success' of his anti-drug campaign and urged police to 'seize the momentum,' " Kine writes on Human Rights Watch's website.

also threatened to leave the UN because they do not like what he is doing. he later said he was 'joking'

On Sunday, Duterte said the Philippines should just bolt the UN after the international agency criticized the spate of killings attributed to the administration’s anti-drug war.

The President said the UN keeps on picking on his war on drugs but has failed to stop the killings in the Middle East and other parts of the world.

“Maybe we’ll just have to decide to separate from the United Nations,” he said in a press conference in Davao City. “If you are that disrespectful, son of a b***h, we should just leave.”

Duterte also claimed that the UN, which has provided aid to the Philippines during times of disasters, has done nothing for the country.

His officials later clarified that the Philippines is not leaving the global organization.

“We are committed to the UN despite our numerous frustrations with this international agency,” Foreign Affairs Secretary Perfecto Yasay Jr. said in a press conference in Pasay City last Monday.

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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:07:28

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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:11:57

pacino wrote:I said earlier that Noam Chomsky would be called a sellout:

Stein, making an appearance at the National Press Club in Washington, took her campaign on an unexpected detour when she accused the famed leftist Noam Chomsky of being cowardly. The 87-year-old icon of the left, though a backer of Stein’s, has said that the only “rational choice” for swing-state voters is to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.

“How do you get past that hurdle?” Sam Husseini from VotePact, a group that supports third parties, asked Stein from the audience.

The candidate, in reply, accused Chomsky of embracing “this politics of fear that tells you you have to vote against what you’re afraid of rather than for what you truly believe. So, Noam Chomsky has supported me in my home state, you know, when he felt safe to do so. I think it’s fair to say my agenda is far closer to his than Hillary Clinton. But he subscribes to the politics of fear.”

And by saying that Chomsky is subscribing to the politics of fear and calling him a sellout, she is also engaging in the politics of fear--the fear of being labeled a traitor.

Anyone who believes that people like Stein or Johnson are somehow a different type of politician because they have a few non-"mainstream" core beliefs are just kidding themselves. She freaking publicly shamed an incredibly intelligent person because he made the personal choice to set aside some of his core beliefs for a perceived greater good.

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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:15:51

did she say 'sell-out' or 'traitor' or publicly shame anyone? she's just reiterating her party line

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Re: Trump shampoo: Reboot, melt down, repeat. (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:18:52

jerseyhoya wrote:
ashton wrote:Because Mississippi and Louisiana have such large black and Hispanic (mostly black) populations, Clinton could win either state if the following happen:

1. Minorities vote at the same rate as whites
2. Blacks/Hispanics overwhelmingly support Hillary
3. She gets 30% of the vote of white women
4. She get 10% of the vote of white men

JH, do you know of any recent polls that break down the vote in those two states? Are they competitive? If not, in which of those four benchmarks is she falling short?

Seen nothing from either. PPP had a poll out yesterday in South Carolina that has Trump up only two. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... _81116.pdf - Trump's up 57-20 with whites and down 80-5 with blacks. Think your math is probably about right on the white share of the vote in Mississippi. Louisiana is a bit less black, but it also has more white Democrats I think.

Feldman Group poll of likely voters in South Carolina (B- on 538) :

The most recent poll released Tuesday night has Clinton and Trump at 39%, with third party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein making up rest of the vote.

Trump leads Clinton 45 to 43 if the third party candidates are removed.

According to the Feldman Group Poll, Trump is leading 63 to 25 with Caucasians, while Clinton leads 91 to 1 with African Americans.

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