The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

slugsrbad wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

He said that the memorable/history changing ones speak with eloquence and intention. He did not say that the forgettable or bad Presidents spoke like Trump tweeted.

I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively, I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words. Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald Trump. Nobody. I will find — within our military, I will find the General Patton or I will find General MacArthur, I will find the right guy. I will find the guy that’s going to take that military and make it really work. Nobody, nobody will be pushing us around. I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. And we won’t be using a man like Secretary Kerry that has absolutely no concept of negotiation, who’s making a horrible and laughable deal, who’s just being tapped along as they make weapons right now, and then goes into a bicycle race at 72 years old, and falls and breaks his leg. I won’t be doing that. And I promise I will never be in a bicycle race. That I can tell you.

Now, it’s very interesting. Today I heard it. Through stupidity, in a very, very hard core prison, interestingly named Clinton, two vicious murderers, two vicious people escaped, and nobody knows where they are. And a woman was on television this morning, and she said, “You know, Mr. Trump,” and she was telling other people, and I actually called her, and she said, “You know, Mr. Trump, I always was against guns. I didn’t want guns. And now since this happened” — it’s up in the prison area — “my husband and I are finally in agreement, because he wanted the guns. We now have a gun on every table. We’re ready to start shooting.”

I said, “Very interesting.”

So protect the Second Amendment.

CalvinBall wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

Oh, I am sure he has some good ones too. What I am saying is, I don't think Trump can even measure up to that. Sure, all of them have said poorly worded things or even foolish things, but that is all Trump is capable of.

drsmooth wrote:

MoBettle wrote:
My point is that it's just weird of him to bring up two standards and then only discuss one.

will it be weirder if Lynch disregards that "blank spot", too? If I follow you, seems like it would be .... weird ... if she did

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

He said that the memorable/history changing ones speak with eloquence and intention. He did not say that the forgettable or bad Presidents spoke like Trump tweeted.

That's the opposite of what I said.

MoBettle wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

MoBettle wrote:
My point is that it's just weird of him to bring up two standards and then only discuss one.

will it be weirder if Lynch disregards that "blank spot", too? If I follow you, seems like it would be .... weird ... if she did

there are three potential positions here:

1. Gross negligence is not an applicable standard (apparently it's never been used in cases like this before)
2. It is an applicable standard, but it doesn't seem likely to get a conviction.
3. It is an applicable standard and she was grossly negligent.

I assume that lynch will take one of those 3 positions, probably the first or second.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

Oh, I am sure he has some good ones too. What I am saying is, I don't think Trump can even measure up to that. Sure, all of them have said poorly worded things or even foolish things, but that is all Trump is capable of.

He has tremendous difficulty reading prepared speeches, that's for sure. I can't imagine how hard it is for speech writers to write something intelligent in his voice.

slugsrbad wrote:

MoBettle wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

MoBettle wrote:
My point is that it's just weird of him to bring up two standards and then only discuss one.

will it be weirder if Lynch disregards that "blank spot", too? If I follow you, seems like it would be .... weird ... if she did

there are three potential positions here:

1. Gross negligence is not an applicable standard (apparently it's never been used in cases like this before)
2. It is an applicable standard, but it doesn't seem likely to get a conviction.
3. It is an applicable standard and she was grossly negligent.

I assume that lynch will take one of those 3 positions, probably the first or second.

It IS the appropriate standard though with respect to the statute you linked above. That is the statute the FBI investigation surrounded, so any decision not to prosecute would have to be number 2.

CalvinBall wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Selection bias, I'm sure if you read the text of James Buchanan speeches you'd find a few gems too.

Oh, I am sure he has some good ones too. What I am saying is, I don't think Trump can even measure up to that. Sure, all of them have said poorly worded things or even foolish things, but that is all Trump is capable of.

He has tremendous difficulty reading prepared speeches, that's for sure. I can't imagine how hard it is for speech writers to write something intelligent in his voice.

Even his prepared speeches have been awful. He is so prone to rambling. Nothing he says is poetic. Even the devices he uses over and over he sucks at. Rhetorically, he is obsessed with repetition. Not only does he overuse it, the ideas and words that he repeats are so low brow that it is insulting.

philliesr98 wrote:Its like a legit campaign sign though. I might take it... I should take it... Yea def gonna take it