Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:03:59

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:.... his likely continued presence in the race past Tuesday, has increased the chance that Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee.


how do you figure that? He's more likely to win his home state than Rubio is to win FL. Beyond that, Rs practically need a 3 man 'race' to keep drumpf at bay. It doesn't matter which of those two sticks.

In Michigan he camped out for weeks and finished third. I don't think winning the state that he's governor of after losing the first 25 primaries or whatever is going to all of a sudden launch him past Trump and Cruz. There are some winner take all states left, and then there are a bunch of winner take all by congressional district or winner take most states where the person who wins gets a disproportionate amount of delegates. Kasich, I would assume, will draw more from Cruz than Trump. Unless Kasich and Cruz agree to form a ticket and Kasich exclusively runs in the mid Atlantic states remaining, while Cruz runs elsewhere, I think he'll hurt a lot more than help.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby drsmooth » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:07:14

jerseyhoya wrote: I don't think winning the state that he's governor of after losing the first 25 primaries or whatever is going to all of a sudden launch him past Trump and Cruz. There are some winner take all states left, and then there are a bunch of winner take all by congressional district or winner take most states where the person who wins gets a disproportionate amount of delegates. Kasich, I would assume, will draw more from Cruz than Trump. Unless Kasich and Cruz agree to form a ticket and Kasich exclusively runs in the mid Atlantic states remaining, while Cruz runs elsewhere, I think he'll hurt a lot more than help.


But Rubio would magically have some immunity from this effect?
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby smitty » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:11:09

pacino wrote:A CBS reporter was arrested in Chicago and charged with resisting arrest...the reason he was arrested was...???? There was no reason if you see it.


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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:22:00

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Monkeyboy wrote:Rubio showing that personal courage that Kasich lacks...

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Saturday that it was getting difficult to keep his promise to support whoever is ultimately the GOP nominee.

"I still at this moment continue to intend to support the Republican nominee but it's getting harder every day," Rubio said.

Rubio's comments came after rival Donald Trump's rally in Chicago was cancelled when thousands of protesters were in attendance.

The entire press conference that is from was really good.




Ok, he sounds good there, but at the end of the day, he still plans to support Trump. The rest is just posturing and saving face. How is he not every bit the coward of Kasich?

I think the thing that annoys me the most is how GOP nominees and supporters who are anti-Trump are acting like they are surprised and are now blaming the media for Trump's rise. This extends to you too, JH. I'm sorry, but 5-7 years ago you were very difficult to argue with. Most times you made me look stupid and you did make me think about my positions. But as the GOP moved farther and farther to the right to stop that horrible black man in the oval office, using lie after lie to attack him to the point that it was clear that the truth didn't matter, their/your arguments became more and more strained. But that didn't keep you from being a good company man and continuing to support a party that was clearly using Obama's race to fan hatred for him. You don't get to now be appalled at what you helped create. You have to own it. If something really bad happens here, you're partly responsible because you didn't do anything to stop it. Blaming the media or Kasich or democrats is just passing the buck. Anyone who kept moving to the right with these clowns without completely denouncing them is partly responsible.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Bucky » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:24:48

almost described the reagan narrative at 12:00 there: "You know why your life is hard? Because 'fill in the blank'..somebody, someone, some country...they're the reasons for it". If he can be so introspective on Trump,why can't he do the same with contemporary conservative mainstay philosophy??

Also, funny that the promises they have been force to make- "I won't run independent if not the nominee"; "I will support the nominee"- are almost LITERALLY politically correct promises.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:38:05

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote: I don't think winning the state that he's governor of after losing the first 25 primaries or whatever is going to all of a sudden launch him past Trump and Cruz. There are some winner take all states left, and then there are a bunch of winner take all by congressional district or winner take most states where the person who wins gets a disproportionate amount of delegates. Kasich, I would assume, will draw more from Cruz than Trump. Unless Kasich and Cruz agree to form a ticket and Kasich exclusively runs in the mid Atlantic states remaining, while Cruz runs elsewhere, I think he'll hurt a lot more than help.


But Rubio would magically have some immunity from this effect?

If either Rubio or (more likely) Kasich win their home state on Tuesday, they will continue on. The pace of contests slows dramatically, so Kasich will have time to try and broaden his appeal and Rubio will have a chance to see if he can regain his earlier standing. I would hope that if either is unable to notch another win by Wisconsin on April 6th, that they'd pack it in and back Cruz. I think it is much more likely that Rubio could succeed in doing that, but I haven't been right about much of anything so who knows.

There's a big difference between the two candidates insofar as Rubio has competed pretty much everywhere so far (until this week), while Kasich is selectively competing (and still losing). Look at Wyoming yesterday. Kasich didn't get a single vote at the county conventions there because his campaign wasn't present. Kasich has been a nonentity in probably more than half of the contests so far, and I'm not sure how much to expect that to change moving forward. Also it's worth noting if Rubio wins Florida and picks up a few more delegates tomorrow in North Carolina he'll be closing in on 300 delegates, while a very good night for Kasich tomorrow would have him closing in on 150 delegates (and still behind Rubio even if he gets blanked).

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby smitty » Sun Mar 13, 2016 18:44:25

I'm really tired of Trump and his minions whining about "political correctness." It's just whiny baby stuff that means nothing and our so called journalists shouldn't let anyone get away with crying about it.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Mar 13, 2016 19:17:36

It irks me when Clinton surrogates claim that Sanders was against the auto bailout. No he wasn't. They're being so disingenuous when they say it and quite frankly it turns me off.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby TomatoPie » Sun Mar 13, 2016 20:02:05

CalvinBall wrote:What is the soul of the conservative movement? To me, it would seem the soul is hatred and Trump is riding the soul to the nomination.


Mein Drumpf is the soul of the hate movement.

Der Fuhrious has nothing to do with conservatives and their values. It's hate, it's authoritarianism, it's economic populism and protectionism - all anathema to genuine conservatives.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby TomatoPie » Sun Mar 13, 2016 20:03:54

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:.... his likely continued presence in the race past Tuesday, has increased the chance that Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee.


how do you figure that? He's more likely to win his home state than Rubio is to win FL. Beyond that, Rs practically need a 3 man 'race' to keep drumpf at bay. It doesn't matter which of those two sticks.

I'm listening to Rubio w/Chuck Todd in some recorded "town hall". He talks in serious tones, but when you attend to his words you understand he's no more serious as a guy who would govern than the party's frontrunner. He's inane. Listen to him defend idiotic laws okaying carrying weapons on college campuses. ffs


Yeah. Kasich winning OH is a lifesaver here. America's best hope is the brokeback convention
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 13, 2016 20:06:02

TomatoPie wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:What is the soul of the conservative movement? To me, it would seem the soul is hatred and Trump is riding the soul to the nomination.


Mein Drumpf is the soul of the hate movement.

Der Fuhrious has nothing to do with conservatives and their values. It's hate, it's authoritarianism, it's economic populism and protectionism - all anathema to genuine conservatives.

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I mean I guess you can say that but he's getting the most votes so it doesn't really make it so.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Gimpy » Sun Mar 13, 2016 20:15:36

Doll Is Mine wrote:It irks me when Clinton surrogates claim that Sanders was against the auto bailout. No he wasn't. They're being so disingenuous when they say it and quite frankly it turns me off.


Disingenuous? Saying something to mislead voters? That doesn't sound like the Clinton campaign.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Mar 13, 2016 21:43:43

Hillary is killing this town call. She's been great.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby MoBettle » Sun Mar 13, 2016 21:45:40

Doll Is Mine wrote:Hillary is killing this town call. She's been great.


Yep.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 13, 2016 22:00:09

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 13, 2016 22:00:43

Open Carry Texas founder wants to open carry at President Obama's SXSW speech. Sigh.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Mar 13, 2016 22:32:05

Two recent SC polls are really strong for Trump, if Cruz can't make that competitive on Tuesday he does not have much of a chance in a majority of the remaining states.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby drsmooth » Sun Mar 13, 2016 22:46:28

pacino wrote:Open Carry Texas founder wants to open carry at President Obama's SXSW speech. Sigh.



Let him.

And if the dumbass motherfucker so much as adjusts his belt, the Secret Service should open carry his bullet-ridden corpse straight to the nearest dumpster.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Mar 13, 2016 22:47:50

Did Pete Rose really endorse Trump? :lol:

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