Bernie is trying to flip super delegates. How undemocratic of him.

The narrative that the GOP will definitely be able to nominate not-Trump even if he has a strong plurality of delegate is interesting.

There is no evidence over the past four years that supports the GOP has the will to stop Trump or brokers strong enough to deny Trump his magic number and propel Cruz or Kasich to it.

JUburton wrote:
And I think most people here are saying that there is a plausible chance (20, 30, 50%) that Trump hits 1,237.

You obviously didn't run your view of the consensus by the Dude.

But we basically agree on this: most are saying he's a lock, or very lock-ish.

I've been saying - and now Nate's saying - that it's harder for drumpf than it looks. More 20% than 50%.

Kasich is a block, and his staying in is important to continue blocking. Cruz knows this, despite all his "2-person race" bullshit. Kasich wants to be drumpf's VP as much as I do. Pennsylvanian Rs, you damn well better back the kid from McKees Rocks.

No one wants to endorse Cruz or Kasich as is, but somehow will be able to get a majority of delegates behind them. Okay.

drsmooth wrote:

JUburton wrote:
And I think most people here are saying that there is a plausible chance (20, 30, 50%) that Trump hits 1,237.

You obviously didn't run your view of the consensus by the Dude.

But we basically agree on this: most are saying he's a lock, or very lock-ish.

I've been saying - and now Nate's saying - that it's harder for drumpf than it looks. More 20% than 50%.

Kasich is a block, and his staying in is important to continue blocking. Cruz knows this, despite all his "2-person race" bullshit. Kasich wants to be drumpf's VP as much as I do. Pennsylvanian Rs, you damn well better back the kid from McKees Rocks.

i was sayign nobody here was saying he's a lock. that's true

pacino wrote:Bernie is trying to flip super delegates. How undemocratic of him.

He has every right to try to convince them to vote for him. Those super delegates are technically still in play.

Obama did it in 2008

(he's being facetious)

The Nightman Cometh wrote:The narrative that the GOP will definitely be able to nominate not-Trump even if he has a strong plurality of delegate is interesting.

There is no evidence over the past four years that supports the GOP has the will to stop Trump or brokers strong enough to deny Trump his magic number and propel Cruz or Kasich to it.

They don't. I suspect that they will just end up supporting him and it will be up to the Democrats to take him down in the general.

The truth is that much (if not most) of the current Republican party agrees with a lot of Trump's views, it's the fact that he's exposed their bigotry and intolerance that irks the establishment.

laugh of the day, really bad "scare" article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nich ... 74788.html

uh, if anything if the conservatives have Romney or whomever as a third party that means Hilary probably picks up all of the purple states and even some red states that don't lean very heavy towards to right (places like The Carolinas, Iowa and Arizona) Even if Hilary loses a little to Trump and gets only 40% in those states then Trump and the conservative third party split the 60% fairly evenly (seriously doubt they'd have even a 45-15 split).

JUburton wrote:(he's being facetious)

thanks for noticing

i've heard for weeks how terrible superdelegates are. now they're the toast of the town since the 'get more votes' way to the nomination thing isn't going to happen

bet jersey would LOVE it if the GOP had superdelegates right now

Doll Is Mine wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:The narrative that the GOP will definitely be able to nominate not-Trump even if he has a strong plurality of delegate is interesting.

There is no evidence over the past four years that supports the GOP has the will to stop Trump or brokers strong enough to deny Trump his magic number and propel Cruz or Kasich to it.

They don't. I suspect that they will just end up supporting him and it will be up to the Democrats to take him down in the general.

The truth is that much (if not most) of the current Republican party agrees with a lot of Trump's views, it's the fact that he's exposed their bigotry and intolerance that irks the establishment.

Consider that the Republican party is technically an actual entity with individuals and institutions associated with it that have some interest in its preservation, and that this whole election deal is not some kind of fucking video game.

drumpf's pluralities are just that - pluralities - within the party itself. He isn't actually "winning" anything. He's just "not losing" by less than his remaining competitors. The party chooses its nominee, the primary process is a mechanism it uses to help filter would-be candidates. Even unincarcerated felons like Tom Delay understand basic facts like this.

drumpf's bleating now that if he falls ONE HUNDRED DELEGATES SHORT of 1237 - that's EIGHT PERCENT, if you're keeping score - he's gonna go ahead and predict RIOTS in Cleveland, is titanic assholery, suggesting his view is 'why have rules if they're rules that discomfit me'?

Hey, NCAA, if a shooting guard launches a 3 in the tournament that falls 8 percent short of the rim, you should go ahead and count it, or his team should walk off the court in protest.

Only the gruesomely stupid people supporting drumpf shrug at stupidity like that.

drsmooth wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:The narrative that the GOP will definitely be able to nominate not-Trump even if he has a strong plurality of delegate is interesting.

There is no evidence over the past four years that supports the GOP has the will to stop Trump or brokers strong enough to deny Trump his magic number and propel Cruz or Kasich to it.

They don't. I suspect that they will just end up supporting him and it will be up to the Democrats to take him down in the general.

The truth is that much (if not most) of the current Republican party agrees with a lot of Trump's views, it's the fact that he's exposed their bigotry and intolerance that irks the establishment.

Consider that the Republican party is technically an actual entity with individuals and institutions associated with it that have some interest in its preservation, and that this whole election deal is not some kind of fucking video game.

drumpf's pluralities are just that - pluralities - within the party itself. He isn't actually "winning" anything. He's just "not losing" by less than his remaining competitors. The party chooses its nominee, the primary process is a mechanism it uses to help filter would-be candidates. Even unincarcerated felons like Tom Delay understand basic facts like this.

drumpf's bleating now that if he falls ONE HUNDRED DELEGATES SHORT of 1237 - that's EIGHT PERCENT, if you're keeping score - he's gonna go ahead and predict RIOTS in Cleveland, is titanic assholery, suggesting his view is 'why have rules if they're rules that discomfit me'?

Hey, NCAA, if a shooting guard launches a 3 in the tournament that falls 8 percent short of the rim, you should go ahead and count it, or his team should walk off the court in protest.

Only the gruesomely stupid people supporting drumpf shrug at stupidity like that.

The politics thread always needed more PTK, we finally have it.

Hey, NCAA, if a shooting guard launches a 3 in the tournament that falls 8 percent short of the rim, you should go ahead and count it, or his team should walk off the court in protest.

this isn't basketball. it's horseshoes. him being the closest means he's actually winning. you've gotten to quibbling about if he will or won't just outright win the damn thing.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:bet jersey would LOVE it if the GOP had superdelegates right now

yes

they could make christie & carson supers!

wonder when rubio will throw is support to the ahole

traderdave wrote:So it appears that one thing Rick Snyder is really, really good at is throwing his people under the bus. I understand there are thousands of people in state government and there is no way a governor can know what they are all doing but are we really to believe that Snyder's chief of staff knew but Snyder himself did not? GTFOWTS. I honestly would love to know why this idiot has not been charged with a crime yet.

The buck stops. . . hey, who's that guy over there?