Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:09:45

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
pacino wrote:Hmm, I'd have to see who said that. I could see Obama thinking that way.


Nina Totenberg (sp?)

cut to 2:10
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc ... 6270531777

she's good. thanks, i'll have to listen to this
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:12:53

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I thought Christie was going to be Trump's lap dog...er I mean VP choice



I guess the AG spot makes more sense for him. It's probably his 2nd choice for best job ever.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby momadance » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:14:05

Monkeyboy wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I thought Christie was going to be Trump's lap dog...er I mean VP choice



I guess the AG spot makes more sense for him. It's probably his 2nd choice for best job ever.


He's aching to close down the satanic weed shops.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:17:23

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:19:06

Only 2 of the 10 commandments are actually illegal. And the economy would collapse if we all weren't covetous.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby GrizzledVeteran » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:26:29

Sen. Elizabeth Warren was on CBS This Morning earlier and was really evasive with questions about backing a candidate and Clinton releasing the Wall Street transcripts. She danced around and non-answered and the hosts called her on it several times. I'm a huge fan of Warren and this was a big disappointment for me. I thought she was supposed to tell it like it is. I guess Clinton offered her a really good gig if she keep her mouth shut. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/elizabeth-wa ... interview/
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:26:52

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:28:03

GrizzledVeteran wrote:Sen. Elizabeth Warren was on CBS This Morning earlier and was really evasive with questions about backing a candidate and Clinton releasing the Wall Street transcripts. She danced around and non-answered and the hosts called her on it several times. I'm a huge fan of Warren and this was a big disappointment for me. I thought she was supposed to tell it like it is. I guess Clinton offered her a really good gig if she keep her mouth shut. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/elizabeth-wa ... interview/

they met right at the start of the campaign

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:32:19

she negged someone just trying to stir the pot. Good for her.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:32:39

pacino wrote:Image

The data labels on this chart are horrible

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:37:07

I wonder what it would look like if you separated "mainline" protestant from "whacky, born again evangelistic, rapture believing nut job" protestant
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:13:24

JUburton wrote: I don't know if he's implying that a Trump/Kasich ticket would get Trump the nomination but (and I know Nate knows this) if Kasich stays in, his delegates are legally bound on the first ballot (not 100% but close) and if they become unbound it's not like the vast majority of them are Kasich/Trump chosen humans who will automatically vote Trump.

My gut says that if he's within 50ish delegates something will get done in the week before hand to get him the nomination on 2nd ballot. If he's way shy then he won't get it.


Silver's tweet is nothing about any kind of "ticket". Kasich isn't doing anything like that. It's about drumpf not getting 1,237 delegates. Period. Forget a drumpf/Kasich "ticket". That's some kind of fantasy league shit.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:15:52

The Dude wrote:
nobody here has said anything different


now you're just making stuff up
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby JUburton » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:22:00

drsmooth wrote:
JUburton wrote: I don't know if he's implying that a Trump/Kasich ticket would get Trump the nomination but (and I know Nate knows this) if Kasich stays in, his delegates are legally bound on the first ballot (not 100% but close) and if they become unbound it's not like the vast majority of them are Kasich/Trump chosen humans who will automatically vote Trump.

My gut says that if he's within 50ish delegates something will get done in the week before hand to get him the nomination on 2nd ballot. If he's way shy then he won't get it.


Silver's tweet is nothing about any kind of "ticket". Kasich isn't doing anything like that. It's about drumpf not getting 1,237 delegates. Period. Forget a drumpf/Kasich "ticket". That's some kind of fantasy league shit.
There clearly is an intent by saying "Come to your own conclusions" despite what he's actually saying.

I don't think it makes any sense whatsoever either which is why it seemed odd he was even half implying it.

And I think most people here are saying that there is a plausible chance (20, 30, 50%) that Trump hits 1,237.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:22:56

Vox alert, Ted Cruz is taking foreign policy advice from Frank Gaffney:
Gaffney's main argument is that Muslims are trying to impose Sharia, Islamic religious law, on America. This is not happening. "There is simply no evidence that US judges are encountering Sharia law, becoming enraptured with it, and tossing out their statute books," Amanda Taub wrote for Vox in 2014. But the argument has led to unnecessary, unconstitutional, and discriminatory bans on Sharia in seven states.

Gaffney argues that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the federal government and has called for a new version of the House Un-American Activities Committee, the inquisition into communism in the 1950s, to examine and "root out" its activities.

Gaffney said in 2009 that Obama "not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself."

Gaffney was key to the conspiracy theory that Huma Abedin, an aide to Hillary Clinton who worked closely with the then-secretary of state, was connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.

a team of crazies:
This time around it's a little different. As Cruz makes the case that he is the last, best chance to prevent Trump from winning his party's nomination, his foreign-policy advisers include not only Gaffney, but also three others who work for Gaffney's think tank: former CIA officers Fred Fleitz and Clare Lopez and former Army Special Forces Master Sergeant Jim Hanson. Also on the list is Andrew McCarthy, a former assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted the first World Trade Center bombing. McCarthy has been outspoken in his view that adherents at least to political Islam are seeking to impose Sharia law in the U.S.

At the same time, Cruz's team includes former officials who reject Gaffney's broad view that any Muslim who believes in Sharia law by definition believes in a totalitarian and violent ideology at war with America.

see, we have people that ARE crazy in one way and even allowed non-crazies! Rivals!
Cruz threaded this needle between Gaffney and Abrams in his response to Trump's call in December for a temporary ban on Muslims coming to the U.S. Cruz never criticized Trump's position directly. (Marco Rubio did.) But he also didn't endorse the position, instead introducing a bill to halt refugees from countries with a significant al Qaeda or Islamic State presence, with exceptions for asylum seekers fleeing genocide.

the moderate position is to say nothing when someone wants to ban muslims from the US
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:25:12

at least he is consulting with someone. trump talks to himself, mostly. he has a smart brain.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:26:56

CalvinBall wrote:at least he is consulting with someone. trump talks to himself, mostly. he has a smart brain.


classic sign of being a narcissist (as in the disorder)
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby traderdave » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:28:12

So it appears that one thing Rick Snyder is really, really good at is throwing his people under the bus. I understand there are thousands of people in state government and there is no way a governor can know what they are all doing but are we really to believe that Snyder's chief of staff knew but Snyder himself did not? GTFOWTS. I honestly would love to know why this idiot has not been charged with a crime yet.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby JUburton » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:28:34

i legitimately would be more frightened of a president cruz.

i would be incredibly saddened at the breaking of our political system with a president trump but i think he'd be less dangerous.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby Soren » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:32:42

In any election cycle without Trump Cruz is probably regarded as an unlikable fringe lunatic. It's insane to me that the GOP didn't manage to push Rubio to the forefront.
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