mozartpc27 wrote:OMG:



Christie might need to be put on suicide watch.

If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy — which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog — you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that.

Nothing happened to them. There wasn’t some awful disaster. There wasn’t a war or a famine or a plague or a foreign occupation. Even the economic changes of the past few decades do very little to explain the dysfunction and negligence — and the incomprehensible malice — of poor white America. So the gypsum business in Garbutt ain’t what it used to be. There is more to life in the 21st century than wallboard and cheap sentimentality about how the Man closed the factories down.

The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs. Forget your goddamned gypsum, and, if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke, too. The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin.

TomatoPie wrote:
Well Doc, you've done a better job here defending Sanders than the fanboys - but your best has been (paraphrasing here) "Well sure his plan is not plausible but it needs to be fleshed out."

It's easy to love what he's proposing - but he's suggesting alchemy.

I get it - Sanders is admirable, Drumpf is despicable. Agreed. I'd vote Sanders over Mein Drumpf. None of that gives any gravitas to his hare-brained schemes. It's not Econ 101 - it's first grade math that disproves his approach. And we don't even need to explore his 30 years in office with no accomplishments and no allies.

mozartpc27 wrote:OMG:



Christie might need to be put on suicide watch.

td11 wrote:http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/03/trump-inspired-classism

If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy — which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog — you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that.

Nothing happened to them. There wasn’t some awful disaster. There wasn’t a war or a famine or a plague or a foreign occupation. Even the economic changes of the past few decades do very little to explain the dysfunction and negligence — and the incomprehensible malice — of poor white America. So the gypsum business in Garbutt ain’t what it used to be. There is more to life in the 21st century than wallboard and cheap sentimentality about how the Man closed the factories down.

The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs. Forget your goddamned gypsum, and, if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke, too. The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin.

Amazing... Conservative columnist Kevin Williamson eviscerating a beloved and highly courted part of the republican base. And it's actually way more hateful than I could imagine a liberal be about the same group of people. I guess it's about time we see some establishment republicans lash out at their own in trying to explain and distance themselves from the trump phenomenon

td11 wrote:http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/03/trump-inspired-classism

If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy — which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog — you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that.

Nothing happened to them. There wasn’t some awful disaster. There wasn’t a war or a famine or a plague or a foreign occupation. Even the economic changes of the past few decades do very little to explain the dysfunction and negligence — and the incomprehensible malice — of poor white America. So the gypsum business in Garbutt ain’t what it used to be. There is more to life in the 21st century than wallboard and cheap sentimentality about how the Man closed the factories down.

The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs. Forget your goddamned gypsum, and, if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke, too. The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin.

Amazing... Conservative columnist Kevin Williamson eviscerating a beloved and highly courted part of the republican base. And it's actually way more hateful than I could imagine a liberal be about the same group of people. I guess it's about time we see some establishment republicans lash out at their own in trying to explain and distance themselves from the trump phenomenon

td11 wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:OMG:



Christie might need to be put on suicide watch.

Pretty sobering to see former tough man Chris Christie be treated like Donald Trump's temporary personal fluffer

Bucky wrote:I don't think the writer's context was that of the culture dying out, but its participants. that's the difference.

drsmooth wrote:

Bucky wrote:I don't think the writer's context was that of the culture dying out, but its participants. that's the difference.

While I'm with you that Williamson's clearly not shedding any tears for the individuals, I feel like if if he meant the actual "participants", he'd have said so.

Instead he said communities.

Pretty sure he's not urging mass extermination; he's saying the environments in which these individuals have been "whelped" should die, rather than the whelped themselves (pretty sure people aren't "whelped", but hey, he's down on their sort).

Bucky wrote:a community is people

jerseyhoya wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:OMG:



Christie might need to be put on suicide watch.

The amount of #$!&@ he has eaten and continues to eat for the endorsement is probably going a long way in preventing more mainstream Republicans from jumping on board.

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