Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby SK790 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 02:48:20

What's the worst the FBI investigations have shown? I keep hearing "Hillary should be in jail" and that she committed the worst crime ever by sending some documents over her private e-mail, but what bad thing exactly became of that? I'm not exactly clear, but maybe 10 more Senate Committees will get to the bottom of it! Bush and Cheney did virtually the same thing Hillary did, but nobody on the right seemed to give a shit about that in 2007...

Her refusing to release the transcripts is a funny thing for you to rail on about. Seems like something you'd 100% defend if it were a Republican. I think it's scummy and it's one of the many reasons I'll be caucusing with Bernie later this month.

There are degrees of scumbaggery and Clinton's pales in comparison to anyone on the right.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby td11 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 02:59:42

jerseyhoya wrote:
td11 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
SK790 wrote:What a shock, a Republican who is willing to fuck a bunch of others over for the slightest chance at personal gain.

Your party is nominating Hillary Clinton :h:

What

How much are the Clintons' worth? How many corporations whose policies she 'opposes' as a pol has she feted in her speeches? How much shady shit has the family condoned to garner speaking fees for Bill and Hillary and donations to the Clinton Foundation?

You think it's particularly controversial or complicated to point out Hillary has been eager to sell out to make a buck along the way? Seriously?

Lol. Sk was talking about Ted Cruz fucking over his own party for his personal political benefits, and how that should not be surprising because the gop has done nothing but encourage an atmosphere of strict obstructionism and non-compromise since a black man became president. You went off on a different tangent about how all politicians are ultimately self-promoters. My point is there's a difference between Ted Cruz' relationship with the gop and hc's with the dem party. No one in the gop field right now is acting in the party's best interest
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Sat Mar 05, 2016 08:03:34

JFLNYC wrote:
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TomatoPie wrote:I think this was posted here - great article that The PC Police Propelled Trump.

The last time the liberals shut down the voices of ordinary Americans, they got Reagan in response. I was one of those young and neither left-nor-right people at the time - confused and frustrated that no one was speaking up for the America in which I was raised and its values. Standing up to overpaid postal workers and then stomping on pissant countries that dared to defy us - that was red meat, baby.

Today you may have Fox News and Am yak radio, but you have an overwhelming PC police force in politics and the media. Here is what's in the mind of Trump voters:

* A cop shoots a black guy. Used to be, OK, a criminal got shot. Now #BLM and the cop is a criminal and you're a racist if you challenge that.

* A freak starts wearing dresses and calling himself a lady. Used to be, ha-ha what a freak. Now (s)he is brave and noble and Woman Of The Year. You're intolerant and bigoted if you don't embrace her wonder.

* Overwhelmingly, modern terrorism is Islamist. But if you dare whisper that or fret about how we vet Muslim immigrants, you're a racist.

Finally along comes a guy who says what you're thinking.

Trump is enabled because the PC police have shouted down every other politician, professor, pundit, and public figure. You could have had reasoned discussion, but you closed it off. So now you get the crass version.


Lemme guess, you find what's "it" today to be weird and scary.


Used to be that if you found a Black guy at the bottom of a swamp tied up in chains you'd think, OK, just like him to steal more chains than he could swim with. Now the PC police want you to believe some racists guys chained the guy up, dragged him around from the back of a pickup truck and dumped in a swamp.

Used to be if you saw a couple of gay guys in the park you just kicked the #$!&@ out of them. Now you not only have to let them get married, you also have to sell those cupcakes a cupcake.

Used to be if you didn't want the Jews around you just rounded them up, stuffed them into cattle cars, hauled them off and toasted them. Now you actually have to let them in your country club.

The PC police have destroyed American traditions and values and you can't even discuss this stuff with them in a fair and balanced way!


You completely missed the point there.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Mar 05, 2016 08:28:08

pacino wrote:She's fine. This idea that she's some scary or devious person is absurd. She's a competent politician. 20 years of a campaign against her doesn't negate that.


This.

I'm surprised jh is pulling out the current Republican talking points: FBI investigation! Won't release the transcripts!

No Benghazi?

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: P

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Mar 05, 2016 09:38:43

Bush & Cheney take us to war in Iraq based on lies, costing us hundreds of billions, thousands of lives and creating ISIS.

Hillary sets up private email server over which she sends and receives emails which years later some bureaucrat decides after the fact should be classified.

Tell me again which is worse both morally and for our country?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby SK790 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 09:39:11

Release the transcripts is actually a Bernie thing and she should.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: P

Postby Bucky » Sat Mar 05, 2016 09:44:19

JFLNYC wrote:Bush & Cheney take us to war in Iraq based on lies, costing us hundreds of billions, thousands of lives and creating ISIS.

Hillary sets up private email server over which she sends and receives emails which years later some bureaucrat decides after the fact should be classified.

Tell me again which is worse both morally and for our country?

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:03:57

SK790 wrote:Release the transcripts is actually a Bernie thing and she should.


I agree. And it bothered me even more when she disengenuously says: "I'll release them when everyone else does, including the Republicans," as if every other candidate had made speeches to Goldman Sachs at $225K a pop.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Gimpy » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:16:18

I hate Hillary and even I don't blame her for not releasing the transcripts. Even though I 100% think she's in Wall Street's pocket, it's like the old saying: "if you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." She has nothing to gain by releasing them because even if she was being tough on them (which is almost definitely not what was happening), there'd be something in there that would paint her in a negative light.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:55:33

SK790 wrote:What's the worst the FBI investigations have shown? I keep hearing "Hillary should be in jail" and that she committed the worst crime ever by sending some documents over her private e-mail, but what bad thing exactly became of that? I'm not exactly clear, but maybe 10 more Senate Committees will get to the bottom of it! Bush and Cheney did virtually the same thing Hillary did, but nobody on the right seemed to give a shit about that in 2007...

Her refusing to release the transcripts is a funny thing for you to rail on about. Seems like something you'd 100% defend if it were a Republican. I think it's scummy and it's one of the many reasons I'll be caucusing with Bernie later this month.

There are degrees of scumbaggery and Clinton's pales in comparison to anyone on the right.


Aside from breaking the law, who cares! Not the soundest logic.

Further, don't you support a guy who is about representing the 99% and those who don't get special treatment? Yet you condone Hilary getting special treatment on this?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:58:54

The Savior wrote:Aside from breaking the law, who cares! Not the soundest logic.

Further, don't you support a guy who is about representing the 99% and those who don't get special treatment? Yet you condone Hilary getting special treatment on this?


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:00:04

Powell and Rice should be inditited as well then. What she did was common practice.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:59:20

The "FBI invesitgation" into Hillary's email is the stupidest fucking waste of taxpayer money this side of the baseball steroid hearings. JFC.

If you want to pick on Hillary, pick on her for one of the many more compelling reasons to do so.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:06:46

Fwiw, the logs the guy turned over showed nothing wrong.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:10:12

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:25:28

Doll Is Mine wrote:
pacino wrote:She's fine. This idea that she's some scary or devious person is absurd. She's a competent politician. 20 years of a campaign against her doesn't negate that.


This.

I'm surprised jh is pulling out the current Republican talking points: FBI investigation! Won't release the transcripts!

No Benghazi?

As was pointed out the transcripts isn't a GOP talking point. And I'm not really sure how an FBI investigation gets handwaved as a partisan talking point, but your mileage may vary.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:46:32

drsmooth wrote:
The Savior wrote:Aside from breaking the law, who cares! Not the soundest logic.

Further, don't you support a guy who is about representing the 99% and those who don't get special treatment? Yet you condone Hilary getting special treatment on this?


Reading comprehension - you don't have it


Poor effort
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Sat Mar 05, 2016 13:02:00

The Savior wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
The Savior wrote:Aside from breaking the law, who cares! Not the soundest logic.

Further, don't you support a guy who is about representing the 99% and those who don't get special treatment? Yet you condone Hilary getting special treatment on this?


Reading comprehension - you don't have it


Poor effort


I agree - you should read more carefully
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Sat Mar 05, 2016 13:38:32

Rubio letting his inner psycho cavort at a CPAC klan meeting

jesus christ what a country
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Sat Mar 05, 2016 14:23:52

jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
pacino wrote:She's fine. This idea that she's some scary or devious person is absurd. She's a competent politician. 20 years of a campaign against her doesn't negate that.


This.

I'm surprised jh is pulling out the current Republican talking points: FBI investigation! Won't release the transcripts!

No Benghazi?

As was pointed out the transcripts isn't a GOP talking point. And I'm not really sure how an FBI investigation gets handwaved as a partisan talking point, but your mileage may vary.
Because there haven't been charges. Sure it's bad but if they find no criminal wrongdoing then she's sure as shit learned her lesson.

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