CalvinBall wrote:it isnt caused by fracking but an unavoidable by product of fracking, per-se

TomatoPie wrote:There aren't many balanced articles on fracking, but here is one.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/19/quakes-n ... study.html

Belief in a federal government solution is faith based. There's no evidence to support the fed's ability to tackle a market problem and solve it - yet you want to continue to pour dollars in. What you've gotten so far is ethanol, sawgrass, Solyndra, and wind/solar that can't stand without subsidy. Calling for more of that requires a religious-like belief in the goodness and the wisdom of federal bureaucracy.

Gimpy wrote:

Sure, fracking might have really gotten intense in Oklahoma around 2009, but you know what else happened in 2009? Obama got into office. He's probably causing the earthquakes in the central US. It's not like there's a correlation between fracking and earthquakes anywhere else in the world

smitty wrote:

Gimpy wrote:

Sure, fracking might have really gotten intense in Oklahoma around 2009, but you know what else happened in 2009? Obama got into office. He's probably causing the earthquakes in the central US. It's not like there's a correlation between fracking and earthquakes anywhere else in the world

See the big red blob indicating where all the earthquakes happened in Oklahoma? No one lives there. As long as the quakes stay away from the Lawton Metropolitan Area I say Frack Away!!!

Vote Trump!!!

drsmooth wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:There aren't many balanced articles on fracking, but here is one.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/19/quakes-n ... study.html

Belief in a federal government solution is faith based. There's no evidence to support the fed's ability to tackle a market problem and solve it - yet you want to continue to pour dollars in. What you've gotten so far is ethanol, sawgrass, Solyndra, and wind/solar that can't stand without subsidy. Calling for more of that requires a religious-like belief in the goodness and the wisdom of federal bureaucracy.

you've really made a fool of yourself in the past few pages. you should stop, or change the subject.

Or describe for us in detail how the US petroleum industry grew up from the barren rock, unabetted by any governmental policy anywhere ever "picking winners", pure as falling rain.

Why a #$!&@ like Dick Cheney is absurdly oil money wealthy. Hint: it ain't because he knows #$!&@ about the oil business.

TomatoPie wrote:

Gimpy wrote:Once we're low enough on fossil fuels, they'll become prohibitively expensive and then we can start to look at alternative energy. Makes way more sense than getting out ahead of the problem. Let's do some more fracking and cause earthquakes and make tap water become flammable in the meantime.

Good post, mostly. But there's no relationship of fracking to EQ or firewater. Those are good myths, though.

But to your main point - yes indeed - we'll get new fuels quickly once there is a profitable motive to do so. We sure won't get there by the vision of federal bureaucrats.

TomatoPie wrote:
Whatever the state of the industry, we'd all be better off without the feds "helping."

Gimpy wrote:Once we're low enough on fossil fuels, they'll become prohibitively expensive and then we can start to look at alternative energy. Makes way more sense than getting out ahead of the problem. Let's do some more fracking and cause earthquakes and make tap water become flammable in the meantime.