Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politics

Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby drsmooth » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:39:04

MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed


terms like "unemployed" or "employed" are just words to a person who has never actually "earned a living" or "done a day's work in his entire life"
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby td11 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 13:01:16

MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed

what's this now?
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 28, 2015 13:10:07

td11 wrote:
MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed

what's this now?

Trump is throwing this out there as the 'real' unemployment rate. he's including disabled people, retired people, teenagers who put in an application at Taco Bell and showed up to the interview with boogers on their face, everybody.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby MoBettle » Mon Sep 28, 2015 13:32:29

Some really super smart economists told him that
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Werthless » Mon Sep 28, 2015 13:42:48

pacino wrote:
td11 wrote:
MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed

what's this now?

Trump is throwing this out there as the 'real' unemployment rate. he's including disabled people, retired people, teenagers who put in an application at Taco Bell and showed up to the interview with boogers on their face, everybody.

Is that, what, like half? :)

My 3 year old kid needs to get a job.

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby smitty » Mon Sep 28, 2015 15:14:48

td11 wrote:
MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed

what's this now?


Don't worry. Trump will build that 20 billion dollar wall; spend billions more rounding up all the illegals. Build up the military to super strong capability. Cut taxes. Give every household a servant. Make ice cream free. Whatever you want he'll do it. Because he tells the truth.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Bucky » Mon Sep 28, 2015 15:15:38

but what if his foot starts hurting before he gets all that done

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby smitty » Mon Sep 28, 2015 15:20:13

Then he'll run off to Canada. Or one of those countries that's taking all our money and jobs.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 28, 2015 16:11:45

Shell isn't going to drill off the coast of Alaska because they couldn't find enough oil.


Problem solved.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby SK790 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 17:25:18

smitty wrote:
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MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed

what's this now?


Don't worry. Trump will build that 20 billion dollar wall; spend billions more rounding up all the illegals. Build up the military to super strong capability. Cut taxes. Give every household a servant. Make ice cream free. Whatever you want he'll do it. Because he tells the truth.

No, Smitty, "it won't cost too much" and it'll "big, beautiful, and great". He literally thinks he can will economic growth and that he will be able to "take back jobs from China, Mexico, and Japan."

He's like a teenager running for class president.

His economic policy outline actually sounded half decent, but it's going to be wildly unpopular with his party...
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby SK790 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 19:38:28

Guys, is the stock market going to collapse again? I really don't know anything about this, but a bunch of people are worried.

Goldman: The Options Market Says the S&P 500 Is Poised for a Major Move This Week

Opinion: Stock investors haven’t been this bearish in 15 years
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby SK790 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 20:26:52

Carly Fiorina is really getting a hang of this being a Republican Thing

For reasons I can’t even explain to myself, Carly Fiorina’s big fib at the GOP debate last week truly surprised me. Fiorina claimed a video of a Planned Parenthood clinic showed this: “Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.’ ”

The enormity of the fabrication surprised me; the fact that nobody had ever seen this extraordinary smoking gun before stunned me; the fact that not one of the journalists moderating the debate followed up on her claim surprised me. The fact that contemporaneous mainstream media reports of the debate—more theater criticism than journalism—failed to fact-check it surprised me. The people who did fact-check it all immediately agreed that it wasn’t true, and yet Fiorina’s word-picture was touted for days as the emotional zenith of the debate. This all surprised me: the notion that journalism and fact-finding are demonstrably unrelated enterprises.


So outright lies? Par for the course.

Watching Fiorina double down and then double down again in the days that followed also surprised me, as did the following exchange with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday:

Wallace: Do you acknowledge what every fact-checker has found, that as horrific as that scene is, it was only described on the video by someone who claimed to have seen it? There is no actual footage of the incident that you just mentioned.
Fiorina: No, I don’t accept that at all, I’ve seen the footage. And I find it amazing, actually, that all these supposed fact-checkers in the mainstream media claim this doesn’t exist. They’re trying to attack the authenticity of the videotape.



Good, good. Dig in deep, girl!

Indeed, even Fiorina’s super-PAC’s effort to manipulate the grossly manipulated and misleading Center for Medical Progress videos—videos that have been conclusively debunked—with its own YouTube version of the Fiorina claims surprised me. The video uses spliced footage from the Grantham Collection, an unsourced image of a stillborn, and a CMP image of a Pennsylvania woman’s stillborn baby, used without her permission.


Great move! False evidence. Well done.

Not even the most robust defenders of Fiorina’s defense can say much more than that some of the images grafted onto the sound bite might not be completely false. And yet there is still no word from Fiorina, her campaign, or her super-PAC to indicate that she misspoke, or misremembered, or confused some other video with a video about Planned Parenthood. There seems to be no place in the middle for Fiorina to just put out a statement saying, “Hey, I misspoke. Sorry.”

This is an extraordinary moment in the annals of political deception. No walk-back, no clarification, just a persistent insistence that a video that doesn’t exist and can’t even be manufactured in the underground labs of political deception is really out there but, like the Emperor’s new clothes, only the virtuous can see it. In Fiorina’s world and the world posited by Goldberg, if people want to believe the big lie about the kicking fetus and the brain harvesting badly enough, who are we to tell them it couldn’t have happened?


This is where I start to veer away from Lithwick's opinion. This is what the Republican Party has been doing for years! Economic theory, "slippery slope" arguments about gay marriage, guns, etc..., hell, even the insistence from some Republicans that federal tax dollars are funding abortions. This is what the party does! They flat out say false things that gets the most uniformed part of the electorate fired up against some cause. They built their brand in the 80s by feeding America the pure bullshit of trickle down economics and a war on drugs, which have both been massive failures. I'm frankly surprised anyone paying attention to politics in the last several decades is surprised when this occurs!

I did enjoy this paragraph, though:

For whatever reason—and despite the fact that polling suggests it would be a mistake—shutting down Planned Parenthood has become the magic cure-all for the far right dreamers: that one thing that would fight off ISIS, repair the economy, and restore the American Dream. Fine. The fact that there is simply no evidence that Planned Parenthood is harvesting fetal tissue for profit and that there is abundant evidence that shuttering Planned Parenthood would actually be disastrous should appear in the calculus somewhere. New reports out of the Congressional Budget Office show that permanently defunding Planned Parenthood would end up increasing government spending by $130 million over the next 10 years.


This is all pretty hilarious coming from a woman who is chair(wo)man of a charity that donated $18,000 in goods to Abortion Access Network of Arizona.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 28, 2015 21:44:03

Missouri is the latest state to declare that PP does nothing illegal
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby MoBettle » Mon Sep 28, 2015 21:53:51

The Inquirer posted a hilariously awful opinion piece by a Drexel law professor, who claimed that Congress' move to defund Planned Parenthood was a Bill of Attainder. In reality, Congress has basically plenary spending power and equating their choice to defund something to a "trial by legislature" would cause some pretty clear problems. Can't believe this guy is teaching future lawyers.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby The Dude » Mon Sep 28, 2015 21:54:30

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:18:41

Post's Opinion page take on Ms Fiorina's stance: here

The summary is interesting.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby smitty » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:58:41

SK790 wrote:
smitty wrote:
td11 wrote:
MoBettle wrote:Guys 42% of people are unemployed

what's this now?


Don't worry. Trump will build that 20 billion dollar wall; spend billions more rounding up all the illegals. Build up the military to super strong capability. Cut taxes. Give every household a servant. Make ice cream free. Whatever you want he'll do it. Because he tells the truth.

No, Smitty, "it won't cost too much" and it'll "big, beautiful, and great". He literally thinks he can will economic growth and that he will be able to "take back jobs from China, Mexico, and Japan."

He's like a teenager running for class president.

His economic policy outline actually sounded half decent, but it's going to be wildly unpopular with his party...


If he takes back an emporer job I want it. I'm well qualified. I would declare war on some island nation that has no Army but does have really nice beaches. We always go to war in places that are dangerous and have nasty weather. Fuck that.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 30, 2015 08:59:51

we killed a woman in Georgia last night. She didn't kill the victim (her husband), but she persuaded her lover to.

it's morning in America so we're set to kill a man in Oklahoma tonight. he also did not kill the victim, and the evidence is specious at best that he even sought to


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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Brantt » Wed Sep 30, 2015 09:09:30

WTH is the deal with this Glossip case?

https://theintercept.com/2015/09/29/glo ... -tomorrow/

The state of Oklahoma and the DA want this guy dead in the worst way. This Prater guy easily could be more of a murderer than Glossip himself.

How does this go on in this country???
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 30, 2015 09:44:58

Jason Chaffetz did not pass 7th grade math

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