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Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:22:01

If Jon Stewart entered the race tomorrow what do you think he would be polling against Hillary? (Please Jon
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Unread postby The Dude » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:23:01

He'd be like the Trump on the D side, right? Uge early numbers, but no real chance
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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:24:46

The Dude wrote:He'd be like the Trump on the D side, right? Uge early numbers, but no real chance

Not exactly, he's had like half a dozen" secret" trips to the White House since 2011. He is respected, or at least his influence is.
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Unread postby The Dude » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:25:58

but i'm guessing those secret trips to the white house don't really matter to the people who would be polled right now
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Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:32:25

I think his chances would be considerably higher than Trump, but still low.
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Unread postby The Dude » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:33:01

ok, but no real chance to win, right?
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Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:37:24

Depends on what you think the probability of Hillary getting nailed on something and having to drop out.
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Unread postby pacino » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:37:28

terrorist tried to bring explosives into a Kansas abortion clinic.
The clinic is one of three in Kansas that provide abortions. It opened in 2013 in the same building where Dr. George Tiller provided abortions before he was gunned down in 2009. Tiller's killer, Scott Roeder, said that he had chosen to obey "God's law" to save babies, after shooting Tiller while the doctor was serving as an usher in church.
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Unread postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:37:49

pacino wrote:no one is saying she sent anything classified. what is being checked is if something that was sent should've been considered classified retroactively.

That isn't true though. The intelligence community inspector general has already found a couple of emails in her account that contained information that was classified at the time the emails were sent. The emails were not marked as containing classified info, but the info is still classified marked or not. This is just from the tiny sample that has been looked at so far.

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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby The Dude » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:38:33

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Depends on what you think the probability of Hillary getting nailed on something and having to drop out.


i think if that happens, gore, or some other non-celebrity person will enter and still beat stewart
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Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:39:53

Incredibly likely, yep.
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Unread postby The Dude » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:42:09

so we agree!
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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:46:04

drsmooth wrote:
The Dude wrote:you missed where i check my bags, but close



Here's what you missed while TSA was wanding your crotch (yes, I do know why you like airports, you weirdo):

Jerz knows that the die was cast on this Iran deal practically from the moment the negotiations began thanks to structural/procedural realities of our wondrous representative government. Obama never needed Congressional approval of this complex, conflicted, compromising, multi-nation-state deal; he just needed to avoid too much disapproval. Now that it's pretty sure he's done that, he's getting less disapproval.

I know that Jerz has known that. And he's made clear that he understands that. And he and I know that that makes anything Donald Trump, or Ted Cruz, or Bob Menendez, or anybody, a lot of gumflappery.

The frauds and desperados pursuing the Republican party nomination for POTUS are not as competent, not as capable, as Jerz is. Jerz would be a better candidate that all but maybe 2 of them. I would be much more comfortable entrusting the future of the US of A to him than to the imbecile Trump or some poopstain like Cruz.

So when I'm told "no thank you, in fact fuck you for calling the putative leaders of "my team" "children"", yes, I feel a bit miffed.

Your post was "in fairness, I don't believe Jerz really believes it is such a bad deal at all. He's just taking one for the team here. He's an adult. It's just that he resolutely favors a political apparatus most of whose exponents, for many complex and some deplorable reasons, have utterly abandoned adulthood"

It starts with the annoying thing where I'm told what I say isn't actually what I believe because all of you are much more acquainted with my thoughts than I am. Rather than posting my actual position, I'm merely pretending that this is what I think to take one for the team (lest the team be besmirched on this website where four people reading this thread might ever vote Republican). Furthermore the team I am taking this hit for is full of irresponsible children.

I'm supposed to take that as a compliment? And you're pissed that I didn't?

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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby pacino » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:50:06

jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:no one is saying she sent anything classified. what is being checked is if something that was sent should've been considered classified retroactively.

That isn't true though. The intelligence community inspector general has already found a couple of emails in her account that contained information that was classified at the time the emails were sent. The emails were not marked as containing classified info, but the info is still classified marked or not. This is just from the tiny sample that has been looked at so far.

Like Merrill, the agency spokesman also said that the e-mails had not been marked as classified. According to federal rules, it is the responsibility of the sender of an e-mail to ensure it contains the proper classification designations.

she was forwarded them.

Clinton was on the thread of the e-mails as other aides shared new information or joined in the discussion, and often did not reply, the officials said.


In April, following a New York Times report in March that first noted Clinton’s exclusive use of a private e-mail address during her time as secretary, State Department inspector general Steve Linick began an inquiry to look more deeply at the use of personal devices by Clinton and other previous secretaries. In early June, he expanded the inquiry to have his team read through hundreds of Clinton’s e-mails to check on the State process for releasing them. Linick asked the inspector general for the intelligence community, I. Charles “Chuck” McCullough III, to help because of his office’s expertise in classified records.

In mid-June, McCullough and Linick became concerned that State might be handling potentially classified information in a sloppy way. They discovered that classified information mentioned in one of Clinton’s e-mails had been released by the State Department to the public in May.
But the inspectors tussled with a top State Department official, Patrick Kennedy, who said the proper protocols were being followed to protect classified information.

State officials believed that McCullough’s office was over-classifying by deeming information sensitive even if it had been published in news articles or other public documents, according to two government officials. An agency spokesman, Alec Gerlach, said it was common for staffers around the world to learn information from open sources “that may also be independently learned through entirely separate means within the intelligence community.” He said State officials were working with intelligence agencies to review Clinton’s e-mails and to “clarify their findings and resolve whether, in fact, this material is classified.”

there is discussion as to whether some things are classified that shouldn't be. the idea that it's even dangerous info comes into question when the State Dept is putting it out for release.
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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby td11 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:51:15

Image

Marco Rubio hurling a football into a child's face
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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby pacino » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:51:44

didn't anticipate his receiver
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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby The Dude » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:53:06

he saw ryan clark
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Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:56:07

I've watched that 20 times.

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Unread postby PSUEagle » Tue Aug 18, 2015 21:56:35

SMH at his form: almost as bad as Kerry's back in the day.

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Re: Trump problem? Combover here and say it to my face! poli

Unread postby td11 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 22:03:23

Here's this horrifying gif now

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