19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!)

Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby pacino » Sat Jul 18, 2015 14:18:12

Seeing him in a presidential election turnout season will be a hilarious trouncing
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby SK790 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 14:37:33

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I'm sure that will cut them deeply. The AFL-CIO is often interested in the opinions of Libertarians.

I'm sure his statement cuts Scott Walker deeply. He's often interested in the opinions of his defeated opponents.

If Werthless had any sense he'd be embarrassed for you for admitting that you'd vote for Trump.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby SK790 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 14:58:40

How Will Scott Walker spend that $250 million he just cut from Wisconsin's Education Budget?

something really fucking important like a NEW SPORTS ARENA; JUST WHAT YOU NEED, WISCONSIN!!!!!

Just a few days ago, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker signed a state budget that includes cuts of $250 million to the University of Wisconsin system, among other cuts to public education funding. Marc Lasry, a Bucks co-owner, is estimated by Forbes to be worth $1.87 billion, while co-owner Wesley Edens was worth $2.5 billion in 2007 before suffering a downturn (though not so big of one to prevent him from owning an NBA team) in the Great Recession. Together, they will pay just $150 million towards the arena.


it'd be a real shame if they had to take it out of their own pockets, reducing your net worth by roughly 1% really sucks. i do it every time I fill up on gas.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jul 18, 2015 17:31:13

SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
SK790 wrote:

I'm sure that will cut them deeply. The AFL-CIO is often interested in the opinions of Libertarians.

I'm sure his statement cuts Scott Walker deeply. He's often interested in the opinions of his defeated opponents.

If Werthless had any sense he'd be embarrassed for you for admitting that you'd vote for Trump.

I'd vote for a randomly selected name out of the phonebook instead of Bernie Sanders.

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby SK790 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 18:02:20

i'm sure you'd vote for a convicted murderer if he had an R next to his name and promised to fuck over the lower and middle class.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jul 19, 2015 01:39:43

Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders were shouted/booed off the stage today at Netroots Nation. Because unlike the crazy Republican Party, the Democratic Party is a great party and has no crazy people involved with it.

Martin made the unforgivable mistake of asserting that all lives matter. And since the Democratic Pary is such a great party, his innocuous statement was met with widespread revulsion that he later apologized for. Because saying all lives matter is a really bad thing to do.

Bernie doesn't really do the hyper identity politics thing since he's a good socialist and believes it's a class war not a race one, but that's not good enough, obviously. Even with a few appeals tossed in about disparate impact, it couldn't call off the mob.

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2015 08:31:29

Protestors protesting. The shock and horror!
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2015 08:36:04

It's like you don't understand how a primary works and how politicians need to earn votes from all parts of the party, not just 18-24 yr old white guys.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Jul 19, 2015 09:59:46

Love that press release by the AFLCIO.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:03:10

I'm not sure who I'd rather be president less, Scott Walker or Ted Cruz.

Cruz is crazy and dumb, but Walker is smart and probably has achieved more results with his political equity than any other sitting governor I can think of. That probably makes him more dangerous to the future of the country given his policies.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:11:30

Political results yes,actual 'make his state better' results no, which is the worst outcome.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby SK790 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:28:10

jerseyhoya wrote:Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders were shouted/booed off the stage today at Netroots Nation. Because unlike the crazy Republican Party, the Democratic Party is a great party and has no crazy people involved with it.

Martin made the unforgivable mistake of asserting that all lives matter. And since the Democratic Pary is such a great party, his innocuous statement was met with widespread revulsion that he later apologized for. Because saying all lives matter is a really bad thing to do.

Bernie doesn't really do the hyper identity politics thing since he's a good socialist and believes it's a class war not a race one, but that's not good enough, obviously. Even with a few appeals tossed in about disparate impact, it couldn't call off the mob.

talk about grasping at straws
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby drsmooth » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:39:26

The right thing will be for Bush, Walker, Paul, Rubio, Carson, Huckabee, & Cruz to say publicly they will not appear on the debate stage with the sociopathic shitmouth Trump, and then for the tiny dicked ranch prebus to say the GOP backs them on that.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby td11 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:46:03

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Martin made the unforgivable mistake of asserting that all lives matter. And since the Democratic Pary is such a great party, his innocuous statement was met with widespread revulsion that he later apologized for. Because saying all lives matter is a really bad thing to do.


You're a tone deaf idiot if you don't get why "all lives matter" is dumb
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jul 19, 2015 13:16:08

td11 wrote:
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Martin made the unforgivable mistake of asserting that all lives matter. And since the Democratic Pary is such a great party, his innocuous statement was met with widespread revulsion that he later apologized for. Because saying all lives matter is a really bad thing to do.


You're a tone deaf idiot if you don't get why "all lives matter" is dumb

You're a tone deaf idiot if you don't get that someone being booed for saying "Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter." strikes the vast majority of the electorate as batshit insane.

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby karn » Sun Jul 19, 2015 13:17:13

Pacino just said it. This is a campaign...to win votes...and appeal to as large a swathe of the electorate as you can, and so this early in the cycle everyone is relying on hugely populist rhetoric and rightfully so. It's common sense. All lives matter, spoken in the SAME thought stream, like, maybe? a second after saying black lives matter is, or rather should be, a pretty bland but still at least minimally successful populist sound byte. Like, "oh, okay, he trumpeted the cause of the oppressed group first and is prioritizing their message. and, oh wow, okay, he's now tacitly approached general communalism and harmony by also invoking the antagonizing group and indeed, ALL, people using parallelism." Yet people were outraged to the point where the man had to apologize? And is thereby "tone deaf"? Regarding what exactly? The issue of black lives?

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby karn » Sun Jul 19, 2015 13:27:25

jerseyhoya wrote:
td11 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Martin made the unforgivable mistake of asserting that all lives matter. And since the Democratic Pary is such a great party, his innocuous statement was met with widespread revulsion that he later apologized for. Because saying all lives matter is a really bad thing to do.


You're a tone deaf idiot if you don't get why "all lives matter" is dumb

You're a tone deaf idiot if you don't get that someone being booed for saying "Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter." strikes the vast majority of the electorate as batshit insane.

This is why SJW types who love to pot stir using their "am I aggrieved?" flow chart ring so hollow. They might be tuned into more "tones" than everybody else but have gone so far beyond the pale of common sense that their own messages are a cacophony of contradicting, inflammatory and frankly confused nonsense. The amusing part is how easily it is to conceive of alternative contexts where the person who is being demonized for saying all people's lives matter regardless of race would be championed a hero and the opposed voices called fascists or worse.

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby td11 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 13:45:18

that's exactly it, karn. i'm so far up my own SJW ass that i can't even see how "all lives matter" is a thing that everyone should be able to get behind. such great perspective
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2015 13:50:34

The reason people dislike 'all lives matter' is it effectively minimizes 'black lives matter' when the issue was about police treatment of black people, NOT all people. That's a separate issue with its own reasons and problems. There is a separate treatment for black compared to 'all' and so highlighting that is the very opposite of saying 'all lives matter'. Of course all lives matter; the question being asked is do black lives matter?

That's up to you and others how to respond to that question, but let's not act like the two questions are the same.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Unread postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2015 13:53:57

Fwiw, O'Malley stuck around and listened to a lot of disparate opinions from shows and people. He showed a genuine interest in the dstinctions. Sanders, not as much.
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