Gimpy wrote:Does it bother anyone that companies like Walmart and Angie's List are speaking out against legislation? Even if they're on the side of angels, do we want corporations dictating what laws should or shouldn't be passed?

jerseyhoya wrote:Menendez officially indicted on federal corruption charges.

Now that public opinion has thankfully shifted, marriage traditionalists have thankfully been routed, gay marriage in all 50 states is thankfully inevitability, and its opponents are a waning minority incapable of imposing any cost on political opponents, elites who support gay marriage are suddenly very self-righteous and assertive. Now that those who would discriminate against gays are a powerless cultural minority that focuses its objectionable behavior in a tiny niche of the economy, elites have suddenly decided that using state power to punish them is a moral imperative. The timing suggests that this has as much to do with opportunism, tribalism, humanity's love of bandwagons, and political positioning as it does with advancing gay rights, which have advanced thanks to persuasion, not coercion.

TomatoPie wrote:http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/01/this-anti-gay-pizza-place-got-trashed-on

Now that public opinion has thankfully shifted, marriage traditionalists have thankfully been routed, gay marriage in all 50 states is thankfully inevitability, and its opponents are a waning minority incapable of imposing any cost on political opponents, elites who support gay marriage are suddenly very self-righteous and assertive. Now that those who would discriminate against gays are a powerless cultural minority that focuses its objectionable behavior in a tiny niche of the economy, elites have suddenly decided that using state power to punish them is a moral imperative. The timing suggests that this has as much to do with opportunism, tribalism, humanity's love of bandwagons, and political positioning as it does with advancing gay rights, which have advanced thanks to persuasion, not coercion.

Doll Is Mine wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/01/this-anti-gay-pizza-place-got-trashed-on

Now that public opinion has thankfully shifted, marriage traditionalists have thankfully been routed, gay marriage in all 50 states is thankfully inevitability, and its opponents are a waning minority incapable of imposing any cost on political opponents, elites who support gay marriage are suddenly very self-righteous and assertive. Now that those who would discriminate against gays are a powerless cultural minority that focuses its objectionable behavior in a tiny niche of the economy, elites have suddenly decided that using state power to punish them is a moral imperative. The timing suggests that this has as much to do with opportunism, tribalism, humanity's love of bandwagons, and political positioning as it does with advancing gay rights, which have advanced thanks to persuasion, not coercion.

Is this sarcasm?

jerseyhoya wrote:Menendez officially indicted on federal corruption charges.

Gimpy wrote:Does it bother anyone that companies(people) like Walmart and Angie's List are speaking out against legislation? Even if they're on the side of angels, do we want corporations(people) dictating what laws should or shouldn't be passed?

Gimpy wrote:do we want corporations dictating what laws should or shouldn't be passed?

TomatoPie wrote:http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/01/this-anti-gay-pizza-place-got-trashed-on

Now that those who would discriminate against gays are a powerless cultural minority....

Conway sounded unconcerned by any political fallout from Obama's visit to his hometown, even as Republicans stepped up efforts to link the two Democrats. Obama was trounced in Kentucky both times he won the presidency.

The Republican Governors Association said Conway warmly greeted Obama on the president's 2012 arrival at a northern Kentucky airport for a visit to Cincinnati. The GOP group said Conway tweeted it was an honor to welcome Obama and they talked baseball, politics and policy and shared some laughs.