Everyone has not been saying that this is a bad deal.

Iran has a very sizable portion of their population that is well educated and sympathetic to Western views...especially in Tehran. It seems like Republicans want to do everything they can to ostracize this segment of the population.

If I wasn't so lazy, I'd move to Indiana and start a gay cake bakery.

When Nascar and Wal-Mart speak out against this law (in Indiana and Arkansas respectively), you know you fucked up big time if you're the Republicans.

I'd call it The Gakery.

Gays would cross state lines for that.

President Obama is going on a trip to Africa, which will include Kenya. Heads asploding in birther nation

heh

WheelsFellOff wrote:In England cupcakes are called fairy cakes. In France they stick their dicks in warm baguettes.

Dunno what else is in it, but there's poetry in there

Trent Steele wrote:I'd call it The Gakery.

Even if you don't open the boulangerie, something should get called the Gakery

this politics thread is going great

Trent Steele wrote:I'd call it The Gakery.

There's a facebook page for a failed start up in Philly back in 2011 and thegaykery.com is taken but looks more like a recipe blog. Get in before it's too late.

Looks like the NJ Lottery was better off staying public. It's making less money and missing targets. Look ma, an area where the government does better than private business!

Given the paucity of actual cases in play—virtually all news accounts recycle a handful of incidents in a few states—it’s clear that the main function of the current controversy is to make religious conservatives feel even more persecuted than usual and to make secular liberals feel as if they are making a last stand for human decency. ... “Indiana’s RFRA—and the response—is all about the signaling.”

Political theater.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... eedom.html

Hutchinson now balking at bill and wants changes before signing it

Doll Is Mine wrote:When Nascar and Wal-Mart speak out against this law (in Indiana and Arkansas respectively), you know you fucked up big time if you're the Republicans.

I watched some of the debate yesterday in the Arkansas Legislature, and I got a feeling that some Republicans had painted themselves into a corner on this--they seemed to regret starting this process, but once it was underway, the political pressures seemed to give this thing its own momentum. Gov. Hutchinson seems to be willing to bail the Republicans out, if they'll let him.

I obviously didn't vote for the guy, and I don't agree with everything he's done, but especially if you compare him to other Republican governors, he's been excellent so far. Pragmatic and effective, which is really what you want in a governor. The trend towards ideological governors is in my opinion one of the worst things that's happened in our political system this decade. I guess it's nice that Asa, at 64, does not have White House fever. His Democratic predecessor, who was also quite effective, didn't have them either.

Huckabee makes an odd contrast. As governor, he wasn't bad. As a Presidential candidate, he's been a big jerk.

TomatoPie wrote:

Given the paucity of actual cases in play—virtually all news accounts recycle a handful of incidents in a few states—it’s clear that the main function of the current controversy is to make religious conservatives feel even more persecuted than usual and to make secular liberals feel as if they are making a last stand for human decency. ... “Indiana’s RFRA—and the response—is all about the signaling.”

Political theater.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... eedom.html

This seems to me largely correct--but symbolism and theater matter. On the other hand, dealing with this is a lot easier than trying to figure out how to deal with public pension shortfalls.

CalvinBall wrote:Gays would cross state lines for that.

Are they allowed to do that?

It seems to me that with all of the sub-cultures prevalent in the food industry that finding a gay baker wouldn't be that difficult.

TenuredVulture wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:When Nascar and Wal-Mart speak out against this law (in Indiana and Arkansas respectively), you know you fucked up big time if you're the Republicans.

I watched some of the debate yesterday in the Arkansas Legislature, and I got a feeling that some Republicans had painted themselves into a corner on this--they seemed to regret starting this process, but once it was underway, the political pressures seemed to give this thing its own momentum. Gov. Hutchinson seems to be willing to bail the Republicans out, if they'll let him.

I obviously didn't vote for the guy, and I don't agree with everything he's done, but especially if you compare him to other Republican governors, he's been excellent so far. Pragmatic and effective, which is really what you want in a governor. The trend towards ideological governors is in my opinion one of the worst things that's happened in our political system this decade. I guess it's nice that Asa, at 64, does not have White House fever. His Democratic predecessor, who was also quite effective, didn't have them either.

Huckabee makes an odd contrast. As governor, he wasn't bad. As a Presidential candidate, he's been a big jerk.

Good for Hutchinson. Unlike Pence, he comes out of this looking great.

Hutchinson claimed even his son asked him to veto the bill.

I think it was an easy decision for him though after what happened to Pence and Indiana. Plus, Walmart spoke out publicly...Hutchinson would be insane to sign the bill.

Does it bother anyone that companies like Walmart and Angie's List are speaking out against legislation? Even if they're on the side of angels, do we want corporations dictating what laws should or shouldn't be passed?

We should also get money out o politics, but that ain't happening any time soon.

that wasnt really the question pacino

wilco cancelled their show in indy. it is all happening.