Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Mon May 12, 2014 15:47:46

i would imagine a referendum on Booker would probably have to include Booker as a ballot option
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon May 12, 2014 16:12:40

td11 wrote:guys, guys... i know it reads terribly, but the guy makes some valid poiImage


Can anyone else even make sense of this? I have no idea what he is trying to say, except that he is apparently favorably comparing Hitler to the Palestinians?

I know I am late to this party, but this essay that ran in The Atlantic summed up my feelings about the whole incident quite nicely, and in a much clearer and more nuanced way than I ever could have. In particular:

Phoebe Maltz Bovy wrote:While privilege is nothing new, the term “privilege” is everywhere in post-recession America, not just on college campuses. The ideas of Peggy “Invisible Knapsack” McIntosh and Pierre “Cultural Capital” Bourdieu have trickled into the culture. Whatever “privilege” consists of in a given conversation—wealth and whiteness? Familiarity with kale?—no one wants to own theirs. And for good reason: “Privilege” isn't merely unearned advantage—it implies entitlement. To say that someone “comes across as privileged” is to call that person clueless and insensitive. It may not even be logically possible to admit to privilege, if we’re defining “privilege” as advantage about which one is unaware...

Fortgang, then, was right that “privilege” is a problem, but wrong about why. (He was also wrong about it being an argument specific to the left—see Charles Murray and the “bubble” quiz, or Ross Douthat's recent column about college debauchery.) Yes, Fortgang comes across as oblivious, as college freshman used to do more discreetly, before student op-eds went viral. And yes, privilege theory—that is, the term as applied to society, not individuals—is quite useful. All things equal, the rich, white, male, and so forth have it easier than others, and do well to remember this. But has “check your privilege” educated Fortgang, or anyone else?


Sometimes those of us on the left (myself very much included) have to remember to persuade, not pronounce.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 12, 2014 20:43:28

who are we voting for in the gov primary?

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 12, 2014 21:13:24

protesters are breaking this thing down. some chick just ranted for a minute abotu fracking. larry kane tried to motion her off. she left peacefully after two old guys ushered her off stage.

some other guy started yelling but was shut up quickly

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby The Dude » Mon May 12, 2014 21:14:49

and you were waxing poetic about college
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 12, 2014 21:15:39

having a monday

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Barry Jive » Mon May 12, 2014 21:19:45

McGinty's Philly accent rules
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 12, 2014 21:30:51

mccord wants to legalize pot

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Barry Jive » Mon May 12, 2014 21:33:14

i'm pretty behind on all this but Wolf is pretty much in the driver's seat, right
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 12, 2014 21:34:11

yeah, im behind too, but thats what this random analyst panel that breaks in every 15 minutes keeps saying.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Tue May 13, 2014 07:45:23

Clay Aiken won the Democratic primary in North Carolina 2nd by way of death. His opponent died in his sleep.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Tue May 13, 2014 08:28:53

votin' Tom Wolf and Brad Koplinski over here

i dont think Wolf is any great liberal lion, but he's better than the other options and he's strong
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue May 13, 2014 08:59:24

pacino wrote:votin' Tom Wolf and Brad Koplinski over here

i dont think Wolf is any great liberal lion, but he's better than the other options and he's strong


Your endorsement is good enough for me; I will do likewise.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby dajafi » Tue May 13, 2014 09:12:28

I know nothing about the PA gubernatorial. But fwiw, one of our TGP contributors, an absolute rock ribbed straight line Republican, knows Wolf really well, says he's almost too good to be true and is enthusiastically supporting him.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Tue May 13, 2014 09:19:51

did he explain that more? just that wolf means what he says or has some secretive conservative plan?

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Tue May 13, 2014 09:23:08

he's pretty real, i think
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Bucky » Tue May 13, 2014 09:43:33

dajafi wrote:I know nothing about the PA gubernatorial. But fwiw, one of our TGP contributors, an absolute rock ribbed straight line Republican, knows Wolf really well, says he's almost too good to be true and is enthusiastically supporting him.



well this just sold me. not joking!

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue May 13, 2014 09:47:54

4th Circuit is hearing arguments today on VA's gay marriage amendment. I walk past the courthouse going from my parking deck to our building, so needless to say I walked through quite a show this morning.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby dajafi » Tue May 13, 2014 09:52:30

Just says he's a really honest guy, entirely genuine, from a great family, exactly the same in person as he seems in media.

I was really struck by this as well, and as I said I know absolutely nothing about Wolf.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 13, 2014 12:44:26

IMF director Lagarde withdraws from Smith commencement - The tolerant, open minded left on campus grabs another scalp

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