Monkeyboy wrote:and that's assuming Planned parenthood's main mission was abortion, which it clearly is not.

SK790 wrote:the fact that werthless and jh can't see the difference between abortion and gay marriage is just stellar.

dajafi wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:and that's assuming Planned parenthood's main mission was abortion, which it clearly is not.

This was my first thought, but I had one of those "fuck it" moments when contemplating response. Then I tried to think of a better (more evil-liberal) alternative, but only came up with ACORN... which 1) was similarly less SPECTRE-type evil than a resource for poor people, and 2) actually was hounded out of existence altogether.

Napalm wrote:

"One thing that's perplexing to us is 100 percent of the Democratic candidates were aware of it, and 100 percent of the Republicans were not," said Keith Walker, who is working for the campaign of Republican Garry Cobb, a radio host and former Eagles linebacker.

jerseyhoya wrote:

SK790 wrote:the fact that werthless and jh can't see the difference between abortion and gay marriage is just stellar.

One is the murder of an unborn human being while the other is the other is the overturning of millennia of understand of the institution of marriage?

Werthless wrote:I have an unhealthy obsession with government overstepping their bounds. That's what makes me the fun loving libertarian I am. I'm great at parties.

jerseyhoya wrote:I could've said NARAL or whatever. And planned parenthood's PAC is mainly committed to the passage of abortion rights friendly legislation.

jerseyhoya wrote:

SK790 wrote:the fact that werthless and jh can't see the difference between abortion and gay marriage is just stellar.

One is the murder of an unborn human being while the other is the other is the overturning of millennia of understand of the institution of marriage?

jerseyhoya wrote: while the other is the other is the overturning of millennia of understand of the institution of marriage?

n December 17, 2009, President Obama ordered an air attack — using Tomahawk cruise missiles and cluster bombs — on the village of al Majala in Yemen’s southern Abyan province; the strike ended the lives of 14 women and 21 children. At the time, the Yemeni government outright lied about the attack, falsely claiming that it was Yemen’s air force which was responsible.

There is one reason that the world knows the truth about what really happened in al Majala that day: because the Yemeni journalist, Abdulelah Haider Shaye, traveled there and, as Scahill writes, “photographed the missile parts, some of them bearing the label ‘Made in the USA,’ and distributed the photos to international media outlets.” He also documented the remnants of the Tomahawks and cluster bombs, neither of which is in Yemen’s arsenal. And he provided detailed accounts proving that scores of civilians, including those 21 children, had been killed in the attacks. It was Shaye’s journalism that led Amnesty International to show the world the evidence that it was the U.S. which had perpetrated the attack using cluster bombs, and media outlets to reveal the horrifying extent of the civilian deaths. Shaye’s work was vindicated when WikiLeaks released a diplomatic cable — allegedly provided by Bradley Manning — in which Yemen’s then-President Ali Abdullah Saleh joked with David Petraeus about continuing to lie to the public: ”We’ll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours.”

Despite that important journalism — or, more accurately, because of it — Shaye is now in prison, thanks largely to President Obama himself. For the past two years, Shaye has been arrested, beaten, and held in solitary confinement by the security forces of Saleh, America’s obedient tyrant. In January, 2011, he was convicted in a Yemeni court of terrorism-related charges — alleging that he was not a reporter covering Al Qaeda but a mouthpiece for it — in a proceeding widely condemned by human rights groups around the world. “There are strong indications that the charges against [Shaye] are trumped up and that he has been jailed solely for daring to speak out about US collaboration in a cluster munitions attack which took place in Yemen,” Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa, told Scahill. The Yemen expert, Johnsen, added: “There is no publicly available evidence to suggest that Abdulelah was anything other than a journalist attempting to do his job.”

But while the imprisonment of this journalist was ignored in the U.S, it became a significant controversy in Yemen. Numerous Yemeni tribal leaders, sheiks and activist groups agitated for his release, and in response, President Saleh, as the Yemeni press reported, had a pardon drawn up for him and was ready to sign it. That came to a halt when President Obama intervened. According to the White House’s own summary of Obama’s February 3, 2011, call with Saleh, “President Obama expressed concern over the release of Abd-Ilah al-Shai.” The administration has repeatedly refused to present any evidence that Shaye is anything other than a reporter, and this is what State Department spokesperson Beth Gosselin told Scahill in response to his story:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:I could've said NARAL or whatever. And planned parenthood's PAC is mainly committed to the passage of abortion rights friendly legislation.

Here's Planned Parenthood Action's issues page, where they, y'know, outline the issues they're working on.

Unless you're counting birth control (hint: NOT abortion), or sex education (hint: NOT abortion), "abortion rights friendly legislation" looks like maybe 2 items of the 8 listed. If you've got your Limbaugh goggles on.

"abortion rights friendly legislation": jesus, you sound as up on women's issues as Craig Carton.

Youseff wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: while the other is the other is the overturning of millennia of understand of the institution of marriage?

I don't get why anyone would want to characterize something they are supposedly in favor of as glibly as this.

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

SK790 wrote:the fact that werthless and jh can't see the difference between abortion and gay marriage is just stellar.

One is the murder of an unborn human being while the other is the other is the overturning of millennia of understand of the institution of marriage?

but if abortion were murder - legally, you know - wouldn't people would be brought up on charges for undergoing it? Even shithead legislators in shitholes like texas just go ahead and enact insane laws to make it more difficult to obtain or perform safe abortions, rather than taking what to you is the easy path by simply declaring that it's murder. So maybe it's not. I'm not a lawyer and I don't read well so don't take my word for it

SK790 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

SK790 wrote:the fact that werthless and jh can't see the difference between abortion and gay marriage is just stellar.

One is the murder of an unborn human being while the other is the other is the overturning of millennia of understand of the institution of marriage?

the definition of "human being" in this instance is vague and very much a gray area. homosexuals, on the other hand, are actual people who do not have the full rights that others so and that is fundamentally wrong.