Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby td11 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:16:48

werthless come clean u been fired for being too handsome, innit
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:41:15

Werthless wrote:Can you imagine if the Court had ruled the other way, and that she couldn't be fired because she was good looking? I think that would open up a huge can of worms, and I don't think we'd be in a better position as a society. I'm glad that gender is a protected class of people, but attractiveness is not.


I'm all for any statute that plays gotcha with a dumbass like this henpecked schmuck and his wife. To wit:

You can fire anyone without giving any reason - but if you screw up and assert, or strongly imply, a dumbass reason, you're trebly fucked

but mostly I wouldn't allow a moron like this guy to own property or a business or other assets to begin with. Ownership might be 9/10 of the law but it should come with at least 1/10 obligation not to be a creep.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 13:56:37

Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:his wife was upset that there might be some sexual woo woo going on, but NOOOO, there was no sex-discrimination going on here in her firing. the wife would've been just as mad if he had a male employee texting back and forth. so, firing someone for putting the moves on them and them saying no is illegal; firing someone because you WANT to put the moves on them but didnt is completely fine.

i understand the idea of precedent, but doesnt precedent usually start somewhere?

I was thinking this yesterday because my wife sent me a different (more one-sided) article.

Most employees can be fired for absolutely no reason at all. That he told her that it was because of the strain their personal relationship had on his marriage doesn't make it illegal, for the reasons that the court gave. It clearly wasn't because of gender, because all of the other employees were females. I'm guessing that it wasn't even due to pure attractiveness, as there were likely other attractive hygienists in his office. It was due to their personal relationship.

Can you imagine if the Court had ruled the other way, and that she couldn't be fired because she was good looking? I think that would open up a huge can of worms, and I don't think we'd be in a better position as a society. I'm glad that gender is a protected class of people, but attractiveness is not.

I haven't read this opinion, nor do I plan to do so. That being said, I don't see a problem with this ruling. It's simply not gender discrimination. It's also not quite sexual harassment, nor is it the Hooters case (whether attractiveness is a bona fide occupational qualification).

This case easily could've fit under the old axiom of "bad cases make bad laws." Instead, this outcome sucks for the plaintiff, but it makes for much better case law.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 13:59:50

Although I just read a different article that sets out facts that should absolutely give rise to a sexual harassment claim. For example:

Knight admits that he once told Nelson if she saw his pants “bulging” then she would know she was dressed in too sexy a manner. He texted her once to complain that the shirt she wore that day was too tight. Nelson replied that she thought his complaint was unfair. His surreply? He told her it was a good thing she did not wear tight pants too, because then he would get it coming and going.


http://verdict.justia.com/2013/01/08/when-good-courts-go-bad

So if those facts are correct, then the gender discrimination claim should be irrelevant. Then again, I'm not an employment lawyer, and employment law is an odd creature unto itself.

Also, that article makes a compelling case for why the court's reasoning is faulty. I don't know enough to know whether it's sound reasoning though.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Jul 18, 2013 16:34:03

The stock market broke a bunch of records today.

We're doing it?
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 18, 2013 20:21:12

info emerging to suggest TX state capital lawpersons' allegations that they had confiscated poop were, well, full of shit
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jul 18, 2013 20:26:41

They said if I voted for Mitt Romney, Detroit would go bankrupt, and they were right

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 21:11:59

drsmooth wrote:
speaking of fraud & other shenanigans, how about that goofy gus Bob McDonnell? He would have given Honest John Rowland a run for his money

('run for his money', whadda kneeslapper)

I mean, Cuccinelli is dog nuts, but McDonnell, he's got a hair outta place, maybe a few


Hey, Richmond and I have an exclusive on busting these cheese eaters balls.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 18, 2013 22:29:59

thephan wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
speaking of fraud & other shenanigans, how about that goofy gus Bob McDonnell? He would have given Honest John Rowland a run for his money

('run for his money', whadda kneeslapper)

I mean, Cuccinelli is dog nuts, but McDonnell, he's got a hair outta place, maybe a few


Hey, Richmond and I have an exclusive on busting these cheese eaters balls.


I figured that given the sheer volume of material these 2 VA officials are generating for you, you both might have your hands full - balls and beyond

/PiPed, or DIMed, or something
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Jul 19, 2013 06:23:26

Man I wish I could talk about those two.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Youseff » Fri Jul 19, 2013 20:57:00

gay liberal Nate Silver and his queer number reports heading to ESPN

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/busin ... share&_r=0
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Jul 19, 2013 21:15:35

awesome
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Barry Jive » Sat Jul 20, 2013 05:38:28

what a fucking bummer. haven't seen anyone prominent go to that staff and not get worse. i guess if there's anyone I trust to buck the trend it's him, but we'll see
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Jul 22, 2013 22:45:26

Nate just didn't fit in:
So, without promising any huge amount of insight, I’ll make a few observations:

* I don’t think Nate Silver ever really fit into the Times culture and I think he was aware of that. He was, in a word, disruptive. Much like the Brad Pitt character in the movie “Moneyball” disrupted the old model of how to scout baseball players, Nate disrupted the traditional model of how to cover politics.

His entire probability-based way of looking at politics ran against the kind of political journalism that The Times specializes in: polling, the horse race, campaign coverage, analysis based on campaign-trail observation, and opinion writing, or “punditry,” as he put it, famously describing it as “fundamentally useless.” Of course, The Times is equally known for its in-depth and investigative reporting on politics.

His approach was to work against the narrative of politics – the “story” – and that made him always interesting to read. For me, both of these approaches have value and can live together just fine.

* A number of traditional and well-respected Times journalists disliked his work. The first time I wrote about him I suggested that print readers should have the same access to his writing that online readers were getting. I was surprised to quickly hear by e-mail from three high-profile Times political journalists, criticizing him and his work. They were also tough on me for seeming to endorse what he wrote, since I was suggesting that it get more visibility.

who needs facts and figures when you can feel it in your gut?
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Tue Jul 23, 2013 07:29:25

Emotion based reasoning is easy, anyone with a functioning mouth can do it.

Real analytics and metrics, well, that's difficult and anyone who brings that approach to an industry that has emotional whining as its foundation (politics) is going to isolated and ostracized, especially when he starts being more right than the talking dildos that form the collective chattering rectum known as political "analysts."
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 23, 2013 09:18:43

Al Qaeda prison break in Iraq:
BAGHDAD/MOSUL, Iraq -- Hundreds of convicts, including senior members of al Qaeda, broke out of Iraq's Abu Ghraib jail as comrades launched a military-style assault to free them, authorities said on Monday.

The deadly raid on the high-security jail happened as Sunni Muslim militants are re-gaining momentum in their insurgency against the Shiite-led government that came to power after the U.S. invasion to oust Saddam Hussein.

Suicide bombers drove cars packed with explosives to the gates of the prison on the outskirts of Baghdad on Sunday night and blasted their way into the compound, while gunmen attacked guards with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades.

Other militants took up positions near the main road, fighting off security reinforcements sent from Baghdad as several militants wearing suicide vests entered the prison on foot to help free the inmates.

By that time, hundreds of inmates had succeeded in fleeing Abu Ghraib, the prison made notorious a decade ago by photographs showing abuse of prisoners by U.S. soldiers.

"The number of escaped inmates has reached 500, most of them were convicted senior members of al Qaeda and had received death sentences," Hakim Al-Zamili, a senior member of the security and defense committee in parliament, told Reuters.

"The security forces arrested some of them, but the rest are still free."

Mission accomplished. as Bush would say, abu garump is free
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 23, 2013 09:30:00

Ted Cruz's father is a tad overzealous:
David Brody: Talk me about your son and his rise. This must be a thing of God. It's meteoric.

Rafael Cruz: (Ted Cruz's Father) Yes, but you know something, this is not something that started a couple of years ago. Let me go back to when he was maybe four. When he was four I used to read Bible stories to him all the time. And I would declare and proclaim the word of God over him. And I would just say, ‘You know Ted, you have been gifted above any man that I know and God has destined you for greatness’.

And I started making declarations about the Word of God over him every day. When he was eight years old I was very active in an organization called the Religious Roundtable. This was a coalition of Christians and Jews who was very instrumental in helping Reagan get elected. I was on the state board of the Religious Roundtable, so when my son Ted was eight years old, all we talked about around the dinner table was politics because I was so involved with the Reagan campaign.

So during that time is when I asked him so many times, ‘You know Ted, when I lost my freedom in Cuba I had no place to come to. If we lose our freedoms here where are we going to go? There is no place to go.’ As Ted enters high school the Free Enterprise Institute organizes a group of five kids, called them the Constitutional Corroborators, now Ted is reading the The Federalist Papers, The Anti-Federalist Papers, and each of the five kids memorized the entire U.S. Constitution.

So before my son left high school he was passionate about the Constitution. He was passionate about freedom and free markets and limited governments. And before he left high school he knew without a shadow of a doubt what his purpose was. And it was to defend and protect freedom and the Constitution, to fight for free markets and limited government.

And it became a passion in his life. So this is not a trajectory of three years, this is a trajectory of 30 years.

at a diner in Iowa.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Jul 23, 2013 09:58:04

Nate's work is excellent, and interesting. But his strength is predicting election outcomes, which really isn't the most important thing in political reporting. No doubt there are policy implications there, but it's far from the whole story. The problem is Nate does a better job at predicting election outcomes than most political reporters do anything else regarding politics. In part, that's because the money is not in hard reporting and analysis, it's in the expression of opinion. So that's what we get. Nate, and a bunch of people expressing opinions, at best backed by cherry-picked facts.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Rev_Beezer » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:50:30

Only in Schuylkill County...

http://republicanherald.com/news/gilberton-police-chief-posts-profanity-laced-video-on-youtube-1.1524509

The chief of Police in teeny tiny Gilberton, PA posted this video:



People complained about the profanity and he responded with this:

Together we will win this game against the evil Space Yankees! Eat Fresh!

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