by RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jan 03, 2013 15:47:30
pacino wrote:Norquist called this a tax cut, because the vote officially happened on Jan 1st instead of Dec 31st. based on grover norquist's logic, the tea partiers who voted no then voted against a tax cut and for a tax hike by not voting for this. you can't all have voted for tax cuts.
by Swiggers » Thu Jan 03, 2013 15:53:34
jerseyhoya wrote:I think the reason you get yelled at is you appear to hate listening to sports talk radio, but regularly listen to sports talk radio, and then frequently post about how bad listening to sports talk radio is after you were once again listening to it.
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 19:22:00
by Phan In Phlorida » Thu Jan 03, 2013 19:25:33
drsmooth wrote:FTN wrote: im not advocating for 435 different opinions and 435 different solutions. im arguing for a pragmatic, logic-based approach to creating and passing legislature. one that makes sense from a realistic, real world perspective, not something that openly caters to party lines and deep campaign contributor pockets. pragmatism is a dying art. its dying because our government is infested with partisan hacks. behind every piece of legislation should be a smart compromise grounded on common sense, not trying to "win" or make the other side "lose"...because americans are the ones losing, not career politicians.
it seems you and werthless are after the same thing...essentially, a politics that does not involve human beings.
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:05:38
jerseyhoya wrote:Boehner reelected. 9 GOPers voted for someone else. A handful of others, demonstrating true conservatism and bravery, abstained. At least the dumb 'will Boehner fall?' stories go away now.
by phatj » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:07:40
by td11 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:08:13
by jerseyhoya » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:09:52
drsmooth wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:Boehner reelected. 9 GOPers voted for someone else. A handful of others, demonstrating true conservatism and bravery, abstained. At least the dumb 'will Boehner fall?' stories go away now.
Your observation might confuse people into believing he has unalloyed support for his speakership
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:35:44
jerseyhoya wrote:drsmooth wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:Boehner reelected. 9 GOPers voted for someone else. A handful of others, demonstrating true conservatism and bravery, abstained. At least the dumb 'will Boehner fall?' stories go away now.
Your observation might confuse people into believing he has unalloyed support for his speakership
I would have thought noting that members voted against him or abstained rather than supporting his reelection as speaker would have been a pretty clear indicator that there is a (small) faction in the caucus which does not support his speakership.
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:49:02
by JFLNYC » Thu Jan 03, 2013 20:53:23
by phdave » Thu Jan 03, 2013 21:01:30
drsmooth wrote:Gerard Depardieu holding to his plan to give up French citizenship for Russian citizenship over proposed French tax increases on the wealthy.
Here's hoping a famous fat, ugly, rich celebrity decides to renounce his US citizenship over higher taxes to become a Russian citizen
your move, Rush
by TenuredVulture » Thu Jan 03, 2013 21:05:44
by phdave » Thu Jan 03, 2013 21:09:57
TenuredVulture wrote:When was the last time a speaker faced so many defections from his own party? Isn't the tradition unanimous support from your own caucus?
by jerseyhoya » Thu Jan 03, 2013 21:38:27
drsmooth wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:drsmooth wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:Boehner reelected. 9 GOPers voted for someone else. A handful of others, demonstrating true conservatism and bravery, abstained. At least the dumb 'will Boehner fall?' stories go away now.
Your observation might confuse people into believing he has unalloyed support for his speakership
I would have thought noting that members voted against him or abstained rather than supporting his reelection as speaker would have been a pretty clear indicator that there is a (small) faction in the caucus which does not support his speakership.
so it's your view he has firm control of a House Republican juggernaut
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 22:11:07
jerseyhoya wrote:drsmooth wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:drsmooth wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:Boehner reelected. 9 GOPers voted for someone else. A handful of others, demonstrating true conservatism and bravery, abstained. At least the dumb 'will Boehner fall?' stories go away now.
Your observation might confuse people into believing he has unalloyed support for his speakership
I would have thought noting that members voted against him or abstained rather than supporting his reelection as speaker would have been a pretty clear indicator that there is a (small) faction in the caucus which does not support his speakership.
so it's your view he has firm control of a House Republican juggernaut
He continues to have plenty of support within the caucus and will continue to have a hard time getting members to take votes they don't want to take.
by jerseyhoya » Thu Jan 03, 2013 23:07:14
by jerseyhoya » Thu Jan 03, 2013 23:07:49
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 23:27:54
jerseyhoya wrote:Why 'gerrymandering' doesn't polarize Congress the way we're told
by drsmooth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 23:32:36
jerseyhoya wrote:I don't understand what you're asking.
