Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby td11 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 16:41:22

The Nightman Cometh wrote:The partisan democrat in me is kind of glad the Republicans didn't renew it. Completely tone deaf, and only reinforces their demographic weaknesses, which are growing.


i hate that it comes to this, and i understand where you're coming from, but i don't think it does quite as much damage to the Rs as we might think/hope. not enough people pay close enough attention to see this shit.
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Jan 02, 2013 16:54:53

This is random, but after seeing someone quoting Ron Paul about the FED it occurred to me how ironic it is that so many atheists worship Ron Paul. I find their idolatry much more harmful than the organized religion that most of them hate.
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:02:50

td11 wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:The partisan democrat in me is kind of glad the Republicans didn't renew it. Completely tone deaf, and only reinforces their demographic weaknesses, which are growing.


i hate that it comes to this, and i understand where you're coming from, but i don't think it does quite as much damage to the Rs as we might think/hope. not enough people pay close enough attention to see this #$!&@.

Plus, a LOT of the country actually believes this garbage about a feminist/gay agenda and PROUD AMERICANS being subject to prosecution by evil Indian tribes seeking to get revenge for getting trounced by our ancestors.

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby Youseff » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:26:08

this is funny...Reid threw Obama's concession proposal into the fire.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/0 ... de=1937223

The White House sent Reid a list of suggested concessions as his staff debated what to send back to McConnell. Reid looked over the concessions the administration wanted to offer, crumpled up the paper and tossed it into his fireplace. The gesture was first reported by Politico and confirmed to HuffPost by sources with knowledge of it, who noted that Reid frequently keeps his fire going and is fond of feeding a variety of proposals to it.
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:30:54

Reid is good at irritating the right. I like him.

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby pacino » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:40:42

CalvinBall wrote:in other things house republicans failed to do:

the VAWA act expired.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/ ... n-act?lite

jesus christ. because they didn't want american indian women to report to the proper authorities, didn't want lesbians to have any protection, and didn't want undocemented people to have any protection.

SHAME
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby pacino » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:41:50

td11 wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:The partisan democrat in me is kind of glad the Republicans didn't renew it. Completely tone deaf, and only reinforces their demographic weaknesses, which are growing.


i hate that it comes to this, and i understand where you're coming from, but i don't think it does quite as much damage to the Rs as we might think/hope. not enough people pay close enough attention to see this #$!&@.

nothing will make them wake up. this just hurts people, quite literally.
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby pacino » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:47:58

The WH blog back in May explains why the House version was worrisome:

The Adams bill adds burdensome, counter-productive requirements that compromise the ability of service providers to reach victims, fails to adequately protect Tribal victims, lacks important protection and services for LGBT victims, weakens resources for victims living in subsidized housing, and eliminates important improvements to address dating violence and sexual assault on college campuses. Among the most troubling components of this bill are those that jettison and drastically undercut existing and important, long-standing protections that remain vital to the safety and protection of battered immigrant victims.


The Adams bill takes a significant step backwards from the existing law by allowing immigration officials to interview an alleged offender and consider the information obtained in making a determination about the adjudication of a battered immigrant’s petition for status. This not only undermines the critical protection of confidentiality relied on by victims to find safety for themselves and their children, it also allows abusers to manipulate the immigration process to cause further harm. Because the risks of serious injury and homicide increase when a victim is taking steps to leave an abusive relationship, this provision puts victims directly in harm’s way. This proposal guts nearly 18 years of established law and undermines the very foundation of VAWA. Never before have policy makers retreated on the core VAWA principle of victim safety.

The bill also discourages immigrants from reporting sexual assault and other crimes by placing other unnecessary restrictions on the U visa program and fails to provide an increase in the number of available visas. The U visa is a tool widely used and supported by law enforcement officials in order to help keep our communities safe by prosecuting criminals. Many law enforcement agencies have called upon Congress to increase the number of available U visas so that they can encourage victims to come forward, report crimes, and receive the help they need to be safe.

Finally, the Adams bill will decentralize the VAWA immigration adjudications process – bypassing examiners who are specifically trained in domestic violence and sexual assault – and mandates additional interviews for battered immigrants, causing unnecessary burdens on victims. Immigrant victims often have limited options to escape abusive relationships and the provisions in the Adams bill contradict the very purpose of VAWA by putting victims’ lives, health, and safety at risk.

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby Youseff » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:48:29

How come the people that post #tcot on their tweets are often such awful people?

https://twitter.com/SamThiessen

This guy, for example, rants against interracial marriage. He also posted a graphic showing more people are on welfare than working in California. The Republican party is so fucking pungent.
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:49:26

what is tcot?

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby td11 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:51:52

top conservatives on twitter
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:52:08

top conservatives on twitter

one of the many hashtags the use whenever they have something poignant to say

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:53:12

Houshphandzadeh wrote:what is tcot?


Top Conservatives on Twitter
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:53:38

the "on twitter" phrase seems redundant

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby td11 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 17:57:43

yeah but #tc is already reserved for thunder cunts
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Jan 02, 2013 18:02:40

good point. no overlap there

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby FTN » Wed Jan 02, 2013 20:19:03

my dream, as a 31 year old human, is to be alive to see the death of the two party system in this country.

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Jan 02, 2013 20:20:34

Unless you want a new constitution that isn't happening.
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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby phatj » Wed Jan 02, 2013 20:22:14

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Unless you want a new constitution that isn't happening.

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Re: Super Fun Time Politics Thread in Which We Discuss Stuff

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Jan 02, 2013 20:30:17

The political system of the United States is not accommodating to more than 2 parities.

Winner take all elections=two party system with politival coalitions. I don't see how that changes short of a different electoral system.
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