pacino wrote:I switched my opinion about the election results. I WANT A MANDATE. Want to try to get stuff done these next couple years, and that wont happen if there isn't one.

This is a fair point. I want Obama to win but kinda want a nailbiter for no reason other than excitement and entertainment. But in the long-run, a clear victory is much more helpful for the country.

Eem wrote:Since when were Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania even in question for Obama? Have I seriously been that far out of the loop?

PA isn't in question. That's just spin to justify the Romney camp spending its surplus ad dollars in PA b/c they couldn't spend it elsewhere and didn't want to eat it. PA has been consistently Obama +3/+5 for the past month.

voting featherman over bob brady

The Dude wrote:voting featherman over bob brady

How much did a Pearl Jam earworm effect this decision?

That depends. What are you talking about

I've always wanted to do nasty things with Ashleigh Banfield.

pacino wrote:lol

A Tea Party group in Kansas is saying that a Democratic candidate for the state House of Representatives should not be elected because he does not have children.

Literature dropped off at homes in Wichita Saturday by Kansans for Liberty, a Tea Party group, says that Democrat Brandon Whipple should not be elected to the state House because he has no children. It is one of a list of reasons why Whipple, 30, should not be elected over Republican Rick Lindsey in the newly drawn district, according to the literature.

"Can someone with no children really understand your family's needs?" it reads, with "no children" written in red.

The piece also criticizes Whipple's experience as a public school teacher, calling him a career government employee, and attacks him for not having his name on the deed to his house. It calls the candidate's beliefs into question, saying Whipple told a neighborhood group that while he is a Democrat, he married into a Republican family and "learned to compromise."

His opponent also has no children...

"It is a personal attack," Whipple told The Huffington Post. "It offends me because my wife and I are trying to have kids."

He's offended for the wrong reason

I can't vote til later anyway but can someone help me out with a guide I can read on my phone for the other stuff I'm voting on?

The Dude wrote:voting featherman over bob brady

At least you have an option for your local hack. My only option is a no-vote.

I should add I would vote Brady in the general and against him in the primary.

My senate rep in the pa senate is a democrat because he has to be. I'm not sure what actual democratic values he actually holds. He likes unions because they give him money? All I can see.


Tom caltagirone for the locals.

Barry Jive wrote:I can't vote til later anyway but can someone help me out with a guide I can read on my phone for the other stuff I'm voting on?

Here's the referendum questions, in plain English down the middle

http://www.seventy.org/Elections_Novemb ... tions.aspx

I've never been so proud to be an American as today, when I am entrusted with the responsibility of voting for an anonymous elector who may or may not then help select a presidential candidate according to my wishes.

pacino wrote:I switched my opinion about the election results. I WANT A MANDATE. Want to try to get stuff done these next couple years, and that wont happen if there isn't one.

Unless you think he's going to outperform his 2008 margin (spoiler: he's not), there's no shot of this.

Then again, a mandate is what you make of it. Bush clearly didn't have one the first time but acted like he'd won in a landslide, and claimed one the second time but couldn't move an agenda, for a bunch of reasons. What might empower Obama, if he wins, isn't the margin but the circumstances around the "fiscal cliff," plus the likelihood of the recovery picking up steam.

That second point is the one that sticks in my head. I'm convinced the only way to rid the Republicans of the crazy is to beat it out of them. If Obama wins today and the economy really starts to cook over the next few years, Obamacare is implemented (maybe with slight/bipartisan reforms) and there's a deal on immigration reform, I could see a scenario in which they nominate a true nutball next time, lose in a landslide, and then maybe, finally start to turn back toward Huntsman/Daniels type conservatives, with a party behind them more interested in good governance than dying on the hill of right-wing dogma.*

*I actually believe this is true of Romney--but not that he has the strength of character to lead this fight within his party. My hope is that if he does lose, Republicans will reach the conclusion that what beat him was how far he had to run to the right in the primaries just to fend off people you wouldn't want feeding your cats, much less running the country.

pacino wrote:

The Dude wrote:voting featherman over bob brady

At least you have an option for your local hack. My only option is a no-vote.

I should add I would vote Brady in the general and against him in the primary.

My senate rep in the pa senate is a democrat because he has to be. I'm not sure what actual democratic values he actually holds. He likes unions because they give him money? All I can see.


Tom caltagirone for the locals.

i could never vote for brady again. hes just a horrible person.

pacino wrote:another coworker stated that he was asked for ID, which is legal. he said he didnt need it, and she said 'well youre not here on the list'. he has lived at hte same place for 40 years and has always voted there. sheesh, these poll workers are geniuses.

This is making me nervous about Pennsylvania.

They were asking everyone for ID at my place. Didn't seem like a big deal at all.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

pacino wrote:another coworker stated that he was asked for ID, which is legal. he said he didnt need it, and she said 'well youre not here on the list'. he has lived at hte same place for 40 years and has always voted there. sheesh, these poll workers are geniuses.

This is making me nervous about Pennsylvania.

My experience, after they confirmed I was on the list and had voted in past elections at this location:

75 year old lady: You have ID, right?
Me: Yeah, do I need it?
lady: No. Just sign here.

Hmmmm, I think I was outsmarted here. I wish I hadnt confirmed before asking if I needed it.

mickbayne wrote:They were asking everyone for ID at my place. Didn't seem like a big deal at all.

It's a big deal to those that don't have ID and are registered to vote.

mickbayne wrote:They were asking everyone for ID at my place. Didn't seem like a big deal at all.

Seems like it depends what moron is manning the polling place.

pacino wrote:

mickbayne wrote:They were asking everyone for ID at my place. Didn't seem like a big deal at all.

Seems like it depends what moron is manning the polling place.

Call the board of elections in your county. Seriously.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

pacino wrote:

mickbayne wrote:They were asking everyone for ID at my place. Didn't seem like a big deal at all.

Seems like it depends what moron is manning the polling place.

Call the board of elections in your county.

Called mine to report the guy who pulled the curtain back had a ponytail