Monkeyboy wrote:So the GOP guy was destroying voter registration forms in VA. Isn't that like 100 times worse than what ACORN did?

I anxiously await the deafening howl of voter fraud from the GOP supporters saying how their party is trying to steal the election.

**crickets**

Maybe if the guy was poor or black it would be more of a big deal.

CalvinBall wrote:@jerseyhoya why do you think Romney wins Colorado? Obama is ahead in most of the recent polls. One he is up 5. Sure it will be close, but there isn't enough evidence that Romney can take the state as this is for a state like Florida. And as far as Virginia, it looks like a coin toss at this point.

jerseyhoya wrote:Nate's a lot smarter than I am, but if the election was held today I think Romney would win the popular vote and would probably win the Electoral College as well. I think Mitt would win at least 257 EVs (NC, FL, VA, CO), and then would only need Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa or New Hampshire. I've heard whispers from people I used to work with that Romney is at least tied in both Ohio and Wisconsin. There's a serious lack of legitimate polling going on at the state level, and the whole Obama EC lock theory is built on a foundation of sand. The Gallup 7% lead is a mirage, but I think most of the GOP professional class feels pretty damn good about where this race is right now. The idea that Obama is better than 2-1 to win is completely fucking insane.

jerseyhoya wrote:Newspaper endorsements generally don't mean much, but I kinda liked this one from the Orlando Sentinel. Hits the high points on why disgruntled 2008 Obama voters should switch.

jerseyhoya wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:@jerseyhoya why do you think Romney wins Colorado? Obama is ahead in most of the recent polls. One he is up 5. Sure it will be close, but there isn't enough evidence that Romney can take the state as this is for a state like Florida. And as far as Virginia, it looks like a coin toss at this point.

I haven't seen any with him up 5%. Seems like they're just about tied, and I think PPP has been off (too Dem) on Colorado all year. CO and VA are both very close and could go either way. Romney is favored in both though at the jerseyhoya sportsbook.

traderdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Newspaper endorsements generally don't mean much, but I kinda liked this one from the Orlando Sentinel. Hits the high points on why disgruntled 2008 Obama voters should switch.

I think that was a very well stated endorsement; not good enough for me to vote Romney but it was still very balanced.

drsmooth wrote:

traderdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Newspaper endorsements generally don't mean much, but I kinda liked this one from the Orlando Sentinel. Hits the high points on why disgruntled 2008 Obama voters should switch.

I think that was a very well stated endorsement; not good enough for me to vote Romney but it was still very balanced.

okay, now you guys are freaking me out a little. The OS "endorsement" is essentially a caution; "we don't like the incumbent, & here's why; we're opting for the challenger essentially only because he's not the incumbent; and we're explicitly prepared to flush the challenger should he win and eff up".

How is that "well stated","balanced", or more importantly, persuasive in any fashion?

traderdave wrote:Well, I said that it was "not good enough for me to vote Romney" so it was NOT persuasive (for me). It was well stated and balanced in that it actually had a little bit of meat to it rather than the usual partisan blather about nothing. It laid out the case for Romney by noting Obama's shortcomings, as well as his successes, and noting Romney's presumed leadership abilities while still acknowledging his faults. Like JH, I don't think the endorsement means much more than the paper it was printed on but, as endorsements go, it was readable.

traderdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Newspaper endorsements generally don't mean much, but I kinda liked this one from the Orlando Sentinel. Hits the high points on why disgruntled 2008 Obama voters should switch.

I think that was a very well stated endorsement; not good enough for me to vote Romney but it was still very balanced.

TomatoPie wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:So the GOP guy was destroying voter registration forms in VA. Isn't that like 100 times worse than what ACORN did?

I anxiously await the deafening howl of voter fraud from the GOP supporters saying how their party is trying to steal the election.

**crickets**

Maybe if the guy was poor or black it would be more of a big deal.

What is known is that this guy was hired by the GOP to register voters. GOP voters, you might think. It's criminal to accept a voter registration form and not turn it in, so tossing them in the dumpster is surely a serious misdeed.

What we don't know is why. Did he turn in GOP registrations and toss Dems (the form does not indicate a party affiliation). Was he tossing GOP voters because he is a Democrat? Was he simply lazy, evil, stupid, or all three?

There's nothing so far to label this "voter suppression" by the GOP. But you wouldn't know that by reading librul blogs

A man originally reported to have been working for the Republican Party of Virginia was arrested by the Rockingham County, VA Sheriff's office on Thursday and charged with attempting to destroy voter registration forms by tossing them into a dumpster behind a shopping center in Harrisonburg, VA

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But there is more to the story, as evidence emerges to document that it ties in to a still-expanding nationwide GOP Voter Registration Fraud Scandal that The BRAD BLOG first began reporting in late September, after we'd learned that the Republican Party of Florida had turned in more than 100 fraudulent voter registration forms in Palm Beach County. The story has continued to widen ever since, to a dozen Florida counties and several other states, now including Virginia, and even to the upper-echelons of the Republican Party itself

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He was first hired, says Tanfani, by Strategic Allied Consulting, the firm owned by the disgraced GOP operative and paid Mitt Romney political consultant, Nathan Sproul. Even before this year's registration fraud scandal which began with Strategic in Florida, Sproul's companies have long been accused of, though never charged with, destroying Democratic voter registrations in election after election and state after state, going back to at least 2004. Despite that, Sproul was hired by the Bush/Cheney campaign in 2004, by the McCain/Palin Campaign in 2008, and by Romney during the Republican Primary cycle

TomatoPie wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:So the GOP guy was destroying voter registration forms in VA. Isn't that like 100 times worse than what ACORN did?

I anxiously await the deafening howl of voter fraud from the GOP supporters saying how their party is trying to steal the election.

**crickets**

Maybe if the guy was poor or black it would be more of a big deal.

What is known is that this guy was hired by the GOP to register voters. GOP voters, you might think. It's criminal to accept a voter registration form and not turn it in, so tossing them in the dumpster is surely a serious misdeed.

What we don't know is why. Did he turn in GOP registrations and toss Dems (the form does not indicate a party affiliation). Was he tossing GOP voters because he is a Democrat? Was he simply lazy, evil, stupid, or all three?

There's nothing so far to label this "voter suppression" by the GOP. But you wouldn't know that by reading librul blogs