Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible

by **traderdave** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 13:01:16

Elizabeth Warren brings game to somebody's living room in Massachusetts:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/politi ... 032342.php

“I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever,’” she said. “No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody.

“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

“Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”

by **BuddyGroom** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 13:31:11

jerseyhoya wrote:Are any sports journalists openly conservative the way Peter King, Rob Neyer, Jonah Keri, Peter Gammons, Rich Eisen etc. are liberal? Maybe Jay Glazer?

Interesting question. Honestly, I'd prefer not to know the political leanings of people in sports - they're entitled to their views but it makes it harder for me to root for a guy like Jason Babin when I find out he's pretty much a hardcore conservative.

As for journalists, as far as I am aware Al Michaels, Jim Nance and Al Morganti are self-described Republicans. Are they "conservatives" - don't know. Morganti's from Massachusetts and Michaels from San Francisco so it's hard to imagine them being hardcore red-state types. Nance strikes me as your typical oblivious country club Republican.

by **thephan** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 14:03:59

Does George F. Will count? Or is he more appropriately a Political writer who dabbles in baseball matters? He is not a TV personality.

by **laf837** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 14:17:47

thephan wrote:Does George F. Will count? Or is he more appropriately a Political writer who dabbles in baseball matters? He is not a TV personality.

He's an attractive man as well.

by **pacino** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 14:24:52

He's on tv every sunday.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 14:48:13

traderdave wrote:Elizabeth Warren brings game to somebody's living room in Massachusetts:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/politi ... 032342.php

“I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever,’” she said. “No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody.

“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

“Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”

by **pacino** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 15:12:14

I want to marry her. Or at least have the chance to vote for her. Maybe in 2016?

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 15:33:02

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 15:41:49

Why is Bobby Jindal in that picture? And the dude 2nd row far right has the biggest melon I have ever seen.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 16:01:06

BuddyGroom wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Are any sports journalists openly conservative the way Peter King, Rob Neyer, Jonah Keri, Peter Gammons, Rich Eisen etc. are liberal? Maybe Jay Glazer?

Interesting question. Honestly, I'd prefer not to know the political leanings of people in sports - they're entitled to their views but it makes it harder for me to root for a guy like Jason Babin when I find out he's pretty much a hardcore conservative.

As for journalists, as far as I am aware Al Michaels, Jim Nance and Al Morganti are self-described Republicans. Are they "conservatives" - don't know. Morganti's from Massachusetts and Michaels from San Francisco so it's hard to imagine them being hardcore red-state types. Nance strikes me as your typical oblivious country club Republican.

I know there are Republicans and conservatives in sports journalism (I actually saw Jim Nantz at the GOP convention in 2004 so it's funny you mention him), I guess I was trying to get at whether there were any right leaning journalists who voiced their opinions on current events like the guys I listed do. Keri and Neyer aren't exactly mainstream, and I think Eisen has really slowed down his political commentary. But it seems like any time something controversial happens in politics, a handful of the guys I follow for baseball or football news tweet stuff about Republicans being evil. And no one I follow for sports hates on Democrats except some of the folks I listed above who get on them for being too weak in compromising with Republicans.

by **BuddyGroom** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 16:09:24

Thought of two others, not high-profile like Michaels or Nantz. There's a guy named Ron Thulin who used to work for ESPN, he's back in local markets now somewhere in the Sun Belt - I remember reading somewhere that in addition to his sports work he also hosts (or hosted) a conservative political talk show. Syndicated radio Steve Czaban (pretty visible in DC on 980 am) is pretty open about his right-of-center views.

And of course, Sal Paolantonio has worked as a fill-in host for 1210 am - I don't think they accept resumes from liberals there.

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 16:48:56

Dino Costasomething or other on Sirius/Maddog Radio is pretty right wing and integrates into his sports commentary. His show sucks, but not just because of that.

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 17:03:20

TenuredVulture wrote:Why is Bobby Jindal in that picture? And the dude 2nd row far right has the biggest melon I have ever seen.

And I think that's Ronald Reagan's malnourished twin brother in the top right corner.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 17:20:51

Monkeyboy wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Why is Bobby Jindal in that picture? And the dude 2nd row far right has the biggest melon I have ever seen.

And I think that's Ronald Reagan's malnourished twin brother in the top right corner.

That's the wax Reagan from Madame Tussauds. THOSE SNEAKY BASTARDS!

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 17:57:36

Phan In Phlorida wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Why is Bobby Jindal in that picture? And the dude 2nd row far right has the biggest melon I have ever seen.

And I think that's Ronald Reagan's malnourished twin brother in the top right corner.

That's the wax Reagan from Madame Tussauds. THOSE SNEAKY BASTARDS!

I think you're right!

In any case, he's got on one hell of a suit.

by **drsmooth** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 22:10:44

tonite's "debate" is such a freakshow

not moreso than the previous editions, but wow anyway

by **dajafi** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 22:20:58

Bill Clinton points the finger

I find it hard to argue with any of this. Netanyahu couldn't be more despicable, or worse for the long-term viability of Israel.

by **drsmooth** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 22:29:46

The Republican candidates' appalling lack of comprehension of any aspect - ANY ASPECT - of the state of our nation's health care apparatus basically should disqualify EVERY ONE of them for the presidency

I feel it should disqualify them from holding any executive office, but let's take one thing at a time

I'd expected Newt to ace out the other jokers on this issue at least; he's had thoughtful people advising him on that subject, and he's shown a decent grasp of it in the past

by **drsmooth** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 22:47:21

Gary Johnson - where'd he come from? but on second thought, who really cares?

by **drsmooth** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 23:01:54

Fox analysts concur that the high point of the evening was a dog poop joke by the governor from whothefuckknowswhere

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