jeff2sf wrote:You must be new here, swiggers.

jeff2sf wrote:a. People who want to start a commune talk similarly - it was a little kumbayah-ish.
b. It's very reminiscent of political blogs where Beltway Insiders don't understand that they're not as important as they think they are
c. The US really isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is. Right now we're a political process that has to be "forced" into action via deadlines/crises, but we essentially always get things done. You might benefit from just taking a walk from the political conversation on any given topic and just coming back to it the day of a deadline. The sausage making does not make you hungry for sausage.

Phan In Phlorida wrote:Jeff, perhaps I'm mistaken but I've always figured doc's style here to be more of a "stylistic fun" thing than anything else. [/size]

dajafi wrote:Okay.

Howzabout that Rick Perry?!? Pretty crazy, huh? Gee, I wonder who will win the next meaningless debate?!?

I first met Rick Perry in 1985. He was a Democratic freshman state rep, straight off the ranch in Haskell, Texas. He wore his jeans so tight, and, umm, adjusted himself so often that my fellow young legislative aides and I used to call him Crotch.

- Paul Begala

dajafi wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:It's not like there's anything of fruit here. The last discussion was about the United States splitting up, really? On that note I'd like to see some type of Battle Star Gallactica like federation.

I think literally everything about this post is wrong, from the mischaracterization of the discussion to misspelling "Galactica" to conflating different sci-fi shows.

The premise is that our national structure/model is not now a good fit for our circumstances. If other proposals are "not of fruit," well, it is a fucking Internet site, the playoffs are assured, and to me this is more interesting than yet more talk about the horserace.

pacino wrote:

Phan In Phlorida wrote:Jeff, perhaps I'm mistaken but I've always figured doc's style here to be more of a "stylistic fun" thing than anything else. [/size]

it's kind of annoying, to be honest.

The Nightman Cometh wrote: you're incredibly out of touch with the view point of the average American

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

dajafi wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:It's not like there's anything of fruit here. The last discussion was about the United States splitting up, really ? On that note I'd like to see some type of Battle Star Gallactica like federation.

I think literally everything about this post is wrong, from the mischaracterization of the discussion to misspelling "Galactica" to conflating different sci-fi shows.

The premise is that our national structure/model is not now a good fit for our circumstances. If other proposals are "not of fruit," well, it is a #$&! Internet site, the playoffs are assured, and to me this is more interesting than yet more talk about the horserace.

The BSG reference was just to get your goat, my point is that you're incredibly out of touch with the view point of the average American if you think this is something on even the distant horizon, if nothing else than for the fact that nationalism is stronger in America than pretty much every other first or even second world nation in the world combined.

dajafi wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

dajafi wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:It's not like there's anything of fruit here. The last discussion was about the United States splitting up, really ? On that note I'd like to see some type of Battle Star Gallactica like federation.

I think g about this post is wrong, from the mischaracterization of the discussion to misspelling "Galactica" to conflating different sci-fi shows.

The premise is that our national structure/model is not now a good fit for our circumstances. If other proposals are "not of fruit," well, it is a #$&! Internet site, the playoffs are assured, and to me this is more interesting than yet more talk about the horserace.

The BSG reference was just to get your goat, my point is that you're incredibly out of touch with the view point of the average American if you think this is something on even the distant horizon, if nothing else than for the fact that nationalism is stronger in America than pretty much every other first or even second world nation in the world combined.

I'm increasingly sure you didn't understand what I was saying in the first place. Consider, for instance, how "nationalism" might read differently in MA than in TX.

Also, "I was intentionally trying to be stoopid" isnt much of a response.

dajafi wrote:To give the easy example, you can be most proud of the military's badassery or progress toward civil rights. Or love the country because it's totally perfect as-is or because it's shown the capacity to make progress toward its stated values.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

dajafi wrote:To give the easy example, you can be most proud of the military's badassery or progress toward civil rights. Or love the country because it's totally perfect as-is or because it's shown the capacity to make progress toward its stated values.

My mom likes BMWs because they are safe, I like BMWs because they are really fast. Our reasons are polar opposite but we are both going to keep buying BMWs.

pacino wrote:Palestine is set to become a non-member state. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.