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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Mar 01, 2011 17:47:40

lethal wrote:
Woody wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:for the most part, i don't think its quite feasible to own a home by yourself. if you have a LP/SO/Wife/Husband/Roomate then it can become much more managable. but for any decent dwelling in a non-crappy area you're looking at 220k+


Agreed, unless you have a ton of money in down payment, or your salary is approaching 100K. The one income family is mostly gone


I have both and I still can't imagine how I could support a wife and kid(s) on my income alone.

Between the mortgage, student loans, common charges, car parking and insurance, cell phone, cable and internet, power and gas, subway card, that's like 4K+ per month in fixed costs for me. Getting rid of the car would not save me more than a couple hundred a month. Even 100K doesn't leave that much left over and that's for a 1 bedroom condo that a we couldn't live in with a kid. Plus that doesn't include stuff like food and entertainment.

Now on the rent vs buy, my 1 bedroom condo rents for roughly the same price as my mortgage plus common charge minus the tax benefit of ownership.

So it would come down to appreciation of the condo (roughly -10% in 2 years) vs appreciation of the down payment in investments (S&P is up about 40% since I bought the condo). So I could have a 40K profit on my down payment or a 40K loss.

I mean, it all depends on what market you're in, but the buy vs rent debate (for pure profit motives) is not as cut and dried toward buy as it was 5 years ago.


5 years ago, in many markets, rent was clearly the way to go. Unless you sold 2 years later. Contrarian and hindsight.

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Postby lethal » Tue Mar 01, 2011 17:50:12

8-10 years ago then.

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Postby Didn't I? » Tue Mar 01, 2011 20:33:08

Whoa. My worlds just collided. I was on a phone call with a client in NY, who's from Boston, and he referenced Cole Hamels Facts.

I was all like HOLY SHIT, I WROTE THE ONE ON ALL THE T-SHIRTS.

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Postby Woody » Tue Mar 01, 2011 20:36:45

Shutup you idiot, that was EndlessSummer
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Postby Didn't I? » Tue Mar 01, 2011 20:37:15

DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME

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Postby VoxOrion » Tue Mar 01, 2011 20:55:33

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Postby FTN » Tue Mar 01, 2011 20:57:24

The weird thing is, I totally get Charlie Sheen right now.

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Postby Woody » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:22:20

FTN wrote:The weird thing is, I totally get Charlie Sheen right now.


I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

And if you think about it, it almost seems like he's doing a prolonged Brian Wilson impression...or that Brian Wilson is doing a Rick Vaughn impression, and Sheen is doing Brian Wilson doing himself. Hmm.
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Postby phatj » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:34:04

Woody wrote:Shutup you idiot, that was EndlessSummer

No see, that was five years ago
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Postby 1 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:36:53

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Postby pacino » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:38:10

charlie sheen is pretty much the man. and really, he's kind of underpaid based on how much cbs makes off that show. the whole point of the show is he is playing CHARLIE SHEEN, a guy that parties and has a different girl every show, but then has his dorky brother living with him.

plus, the creator of the show made dharma and greg...so. i go with charlie. WIN

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Postby FTN » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:40:55

Hes 45.

Hes wealthy beyond his imagination.

He parties with strippers. He does copious amounts of cocaine.

And he's taken the filter off and stopped pretending to like authority figures.

Hes basically acting like a little kid.

And if I had the amount of money he has, I'd probably want to live the same life. Of course, I wouldn't be famous, or overtly mean to people, but the strippers + drugs thing makes perfect sense.

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Postby pacino » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:45:19

it's like what if phighton were rich and successful and had a tv show and lots of other stuff were different?

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Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:47:14

pacino wrote:it's like what if phighton were rich and successful and had a tv show and lots of other stuff were different?


I think phighton has all that but a tv show

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Postby Barry Jive » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:48:08

I think the point that he's playing Charlie Sheen is an important one. I doubt he's been biding his time seeing as this is how he's been for 20 years. It's just the visibility and fame that comes from being the star of the country's most popular sitcom that has gotten him to where he is with the latest scandal.

However, I give him credit for launching into full cokehead mode at the right time. He's taken lemons and made lemonade. I do hate that people are acting like he wasn't always this stupid crazy.
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Postby pacino » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:49:30

the rat pack were banging strippers/floozies and doing drugs all the time, for what it's worth

DEAN MARTIN?!

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Postby The Dude » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:55:44

deano hardly drank
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Postby pacino » Tue Mar 01, 2011 21:58:02

by all accounts, frank sinatra was a horrible person who did everything wrong in life except sing one octave amazingly and be a great entertainer

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Postby The Dude » Tue Mar 01, 2011 22:00:32

yeah, people covered up/ignored things back then
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Postby 21McBride » Tue Mar 01, 2011 22:21:16

loved him in From Here to Eternity and the Manchurian Candidate.
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