It's Pronounced BAY-ner (Politics Thread)

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:36:01

He’s right — and Republican control of the Senate now requires the GOP to run the table in every contest where there’s a plausible chance to win. For example, the GOP has to elect wrestling maven Linda McMahon in Connecticut and smack down the heavily favored governor of West Virginia, who’s running to replace Robert Byrd.


Let's count:

ND
AR
IN
PA
CO
NV
IL
WA
CA
WI

Oh look we just took back the Senate without Connecticut or West Virginia

It is not a surprise that Bob Shurm isn't good at counting states given his sterling record in presidentials

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:43:06

Police are investigating an alleged trespassing incident involving a Democratic campaign volunteer and the family of Republican congressional candidate Jon Runyan.

Last Wednesday, Fredric C. Samson of Mount Holly allegedly trespassed on the Runyans' Mount Laurel property and took photographs as their youngest daughter, Isabella, played in the front yard, according to a Mount Laurel Police report.

The 8-year-old went into the house and told her mother that Samson was standing in the driveway, according to Jon Runyan. Loretta Runyan, a former Houston police officer, got into her car and followed Samson for four miles until he stopped at Rep. John Adler's Evesham campaign office.

Runyan notified both her husband and 911 using her OnStar system, he said. An Evesham patrol car met them at Adler's office, and the investigation was transferred to the Mount Laurel Police Department.


Runyan Accuses Man of Harassing Family

Stay classy Adler!

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:47:35

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-13-d ... ell-quotes


Please tell me that was made up. Please.


I don't know, I don't see anything here any more or less outrageous than anything that pretty much any Christian social conservative would think. It's not Palin-level, by any means, except for the "oil seepage' one.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:48:35

jerseyhoya wrote:
Police are investigating an alleged trespassing incident involving a Democratic campaign volunteer and the family of Republican congressional candidate Jon Runyan.

Last Wednesday, Fredric C. Samson of Mount Holly allegedly trespassed on the Runyans' Mount Laurel property and took photographs as their youngest daughter, Isabella, played in the front yard, according to a Mount Laurel Police report.

The 8-year-old went into the house and told her mother that Samson was standing in the driveway, according to Jon Runyan. Loretta Runyan, a former Houston police officer, got into her car and followed Samson for four miles until he stopped at Rep. John Adler's Evesham campaign office.

Runyan notified both her husband and 911 using her OnStar system, he said. An Evesham patrol car met them at Adler's office, and the investigation was transferred to the Mount Laurel Police Department.


Runyan Accuses Man of Harassing Family

Stay classy Adler!


It's not too smart to antagonize somebody who could pile drive you into China, let's just start there.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:52:34

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bitch is catholic?

she's a few verses short of a hymnal, but that explains volumes


I'm Catholic, and went to Catholic schools for 12 years, and let me assure you, she is well to the right of everything I was ever taught - well, except on masturbation/missionary position sex with anyone other than your spouse and only for the purposes of creating children.

But when people find out I went to Catholic school, some of them will ask me if I believe in Creationism. Hey, we had regular biology classes. What do they think happened - the teacher came in every day with a block of lead and said, "Today, class, we are going to try again and see if we can't turn this into gold?"

Fact: the Catholic Church was the first organized Christian religion to declare Darwin's theories compatible with the Bible. They'd been "burned" - and done the burning - one too many times previous to then on trying to put a roadblock up to science to get involved in that kind of shit again.
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Postby WheelsFellOff » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:56:30

I always thought of Creationism as more of an Evangelical thing. I kinda figured that the Catholic Church learned their lesson with all that negative Galileo press.
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Postby kruker » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:56:55

More on China

The U.S. Treasury secretary has worked 24/7 for 20 months prodding China to revalue the yuan. Even scant progress is vital as November’s congressional elections approach. Geithner can forget it after Japan’s intervention.

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For Geithner, Japan’s intervention is very poorly timed. The Obama administration is desperate to get some yuan-related points on the scoreboard ahead of November. That just became much harder thanks to events 7,000 miles away from Washington.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 13:59:15

WheelsFellOff wrote:I always thought of Creationism as more of an Evangelical thing. I kinda figured that the Catholic Church learned their lesson with all that negative Galileo press.


Precisely.
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Postby jamiethekiller » Fri Sep 17, 2010 14:47:59

i went to catholic school for 12 years of my life and i don't believe in god/religion. go figure.

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Postby dajafi » Fri Sep 17, 2010 15:45:26

How Mitch McConnell theoretically balances the budget:

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) wants to permanently extend all of the Bush-era tax cuts. He’s also rejected even modest efforts by President Obama to restrain the growth of Medicare. He is opposed to efforts by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to control future Pentagon spending. And he favors a constitutional amendment that would require a balanced budget. It all got me wondering: What would such a McConnell government look like?
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CBO figures Pentagon spending in 2020 will be about $900 billion. Medicare will spend another $900 billion. Since I don’t imagine the senator would let the nation default on its debt, there goes another $900 billion or so (CBO figures current law interest payments of about $775 billion, plus another $100 billion on the debt run up by those ongoing tax cuts). Finally, the senator hasn’t said, but I’m assuming he'd protect programs such as military retirement and veterans benefits—that’s another $150 billion off the table. Thus, of total projected outlays of $5.5 trillion in 2020, McConnell would leave roughly $3 trillion unscathed.

Thus, to balance the budget McConnell would have to slash the rest of the federal government in half. If you are tea partier, that probably sounds pretty good. But let’s look at what that would mean.

The biggest remaining program is, of course, Social Security. It happens that projected Social Security spending in 2020 is almost exactly equal to the $1.2 trillion McConnell would need to balance his budget. But the vast bulk of that money would go to those who are already 60 or older and there are no serious proposals to make substantial reductions in benefits for those retired or close to it. The one change that might—slowing annual cost of living benefit increases —would reduce total payments by only about 4 percent by 2040. So there isn’t going to be much dough there, especially as soon as 2020.

What’s left? Well, McConnell would have to abolish all the rest of government to get to balance by 2020. Everything. No more national parks, no more Small Business Administration loans, no more export subsidies, no more NIH. No more Medicaid (one-third of its budget pays for long-term care for our parents and others with disabilities). No more child health or child nutrition programs. No more highway construction. No more homeland security. Oh, and no more Congress. No more nothin’.

We’re not talking about a temporary 1995-like government shut-down here. We are talking about a government that exists only to fund national defense, provide benefits to the already- or soon-to-be retired, and pay interest to the Chinese and our other lenders.
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As my Tax Policy Center colleagues Rosanne Altshuler, Katie Lim, and Bob Williams have written, balancing the budget by raising taxes on high-income people alone is unrealistic. But as my little exercise shows, it is equally absurd to try to do it by only cutting spending, especially when you try to work within McConnell’s self-imposed constraints.

McConnell himself won’t say how he’d pay for these ongoing tax cuts. He does back a freeze in domestic discretionary spending—an idea that would leave him about 93 percent short of his balanced budget goal.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:08:30

SPEAKING OF CATHOLICISM, 6 Muslim nutters got arrested in England for plotting to kill the pope.

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Postby pacino » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:13:59

There are multiple schools of thought within catholicism
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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:23:45

jamiethekiller wrote:i went to catholic school for 12 years of my life and i don't believe in god/religion. go figure.


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Postby kopphanatic » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:24:54

The Church is officially opposed to capital punishment too, as well as abortion, unlike the many Evangelicals that are so protective of fetuses but have no problem with sending someone to the chair.


For the record, I'm a Catholic in favor of legalized abortion and capital punishment, so I guess that makes me a heretic in the eyes of the Vatican.
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Postby jamiethekiller » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:26:28

kopphanatic wrote:The Church is officially opposed to capital punishment too, as well as abortion, unlike the many Evangelicals that are so protective of fetuses but have no problem with sending someone to the chair.


For the record, I'm a Catholic in favor of legalized abortion and capital punishment, so I guess that makes me a heretic in the eyes of the Vatican.


i think it has more to do with yelling "HAIL SATAN" really loudly in random places than anything else.

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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:29:51

kopphanatic wrote:The Church is officially opposed to capital punishment too, as well as abortion, unlike the many Evangelicals that are so protective of fetuses but have no problem with sending someone to the chair.


For the record, I'm a Catholic in favor of legalized abortion and capital punishment, so I guess that makes me a heretic in the eyes of the Vatican.


Though the church (and more specifically the USCCB) opposes capital punishment, Catholics who don't agree with the position are not in defiance of the church. Abortion is a different story.
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Postby kopphanatic » Fri Sep 17, 2010 16:31:33

Might as well stop giving me Communion on Sundays.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 17:48:05

jerseyhoya wrote:SPEAKING OF CATHOLICISM, 6 Muslim nutters got arrested in England for plotting to kill the pope.


As a (non-practicing) Catholic, it's sad that I read this and instead of immediately thinking, "Those bastards!", I kind of thought, "That'll teach that bastard." Seriously, Benedict has been awful. I mean, everyone suspected he was a terrible choice when the choice was made, but he's just been beyond awful since getting into office. They should've picked a younger, more liberal guy from Latin America or Africa: in other words, someone who was never tied to the old establishment that enabled the whole sex scandal in the first place.

There is a day of reckoning coming for the Church, and the sooner they face up to it, the better. They just have to get out of the phony "celibate" priest business. First of all, a good number of them aren't really, and secondly, all they've done is set up a place for people who have real sexual/psychological problems to go run and hide in. I knew a few guys who were in the seminary when I was younger, and I got the inside scoop on what went on there because of it - just a house of repression, that's all it is. And that's all you could really expect it to be, at least in modern, first-world countries like the USA and most of Europe. Anybody who wants to give up on life when he's 17 and join the seminary instead probably has something he is trying to run and hide from. They need to encourage those kids to go figure out a way to accept who they are, and get out of the "celibate" priest business altogether. Take a cue from the Anglicans already.
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Postby drsmooth » Fri Sep 17, 2010 17:53:28

mozartpc27 wrote:
I'm Catholic, and went to Catholic schools for 12 years, and let me assure you, she is well to the right of everything I was ever taught - well, except on masturbation/missionary position sex with anyone other than your spouse and only for the purposes of creating children.

But when people find out I went to Catholic school, some of them will ask me if I believe in Creationism. Hey, we had regular biology classes. What do they think happened - the teacher came in every day with a block of lead and said, "Today, class, we are going to try again and see if we can't turn this into gold?"

Fact: the Catholic Church was the first organized Christian religion to declare Darwin's theories compatible with the Bible. They'd been "burned" - and done the burning - one too many times previous to then on trying to put a roadblock up to science to get involved in that kind of $#@! again.


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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 17, 2010 17:58:08

mozartpc27 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:SPEAKING OF CATHOLICISM, 6 Muslim nutters got arrested in England for plotting to kill the pope.


As a (non-practicing) Catholic, it's sad that I read this and instead of immediately thinking, "Those bastards!", I kind of thought, "That'll teach that bastard." Seriously, Benedict has been awful. I mean, everyone suspected he was a terrible choice when the choice was made, but he's just been beyond awful since getting into office. They should've picked a younger, more liberal guy from Latin America or Africa: in other words, someone who was never tied to the old establishment that enabled the whole sex scandal in the first place.

There is a day of reckoning coming for the Church, and the sooner they face up to it, the better. They just have to get out of the phony "celibate" priest business. First of all, a good number of them aren't really, and secondly, all they've done is set up a place for people who have real sexual/psychological problems to go run and hide in. I knew a few guys who were in the seminary when I was younger, and I got the inside scoop on what went on there because of it - just a house of repression, that's all it is. And that's all you could really expect it to be, at least in modern, first-world countries like the USA and most of Europe. Anybody who wants to give up on life when he's 17 and join the seminary instead probably has something he is trying to run and hide from. They need to encourage those kids to go figure out a way to accept who they are, and get out of the "celibate" priest business altogether. Take a cue from the Anglicans already.


I don't think their beef with the Church is centered on the priest abuse scandals or opposing condoms to slow the spread of AIDS in Africa or whatnot.

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