Blumenthal, Paul and other idiots...POLITICS Thread

by **WheelsFellOff** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 17:28:41

I'm against the government stating what is and is not a legal marriage. Personally I think it's up to a couple's/individual's church/faith to say what is and is not a marriage. The usual argument for government involvement is tax related. That's fine by me, but open it to all living situations; treat roommates the same as married couples, gay couples, or couples in a 'traditional' relationship. Let people file joint returns with anyone which they have lived with for 6 months or more.

by **CFP** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 17:30:59

It's obviously gonna be 5-4 once it gets to SCOTUS, and I kind of think Kennedy is going to uphold today's decision.

by **dajafi** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 17:32:14

Matt Miller: Lower the voting age to 10

by **Gomes** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 17:41:55

CFP wrote:It's obviously gonna be 5-4 once it gets to SCOTUS, and I kind of think Kennedy is going to uphold today's decision.

Agreed. I think he'll expand the liberty angle he used in Lawrence (invalidating sodomy-criminal laws), but which he hasn't really used since.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 01:34:48

fivethirtyeight
Just backing up: isn't it nuts that (eventually) one of the most famous rulings in SCOTUS history will be named after Arnold Schwarzenneger?

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 13:27:30

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDEBUA0oN_4[/youtube]

Probably not the right message on Hispanic outreach

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:35:47

Just looking at your avatar, I'm thinking Ruben needs to make sure he's got his green card.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:36:46

Even if he does, he's still getting deported by Basil :cry:

Who's smug now?

by **Woody** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:37:27

I weep for our species

by **WheelsFellOff** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:39:33

Why couldn't he be running against Al Green? Imagine the debates!

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:47:59

Did you see the guy next to him on stage? :lol:

Kagan just got confirmed

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:49:11

Didn't 2/3rds of the hispanic vote go Dem this year?

Its probably getting close to not being all that competitive.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:59:05

Gore/Bush - 62/35
Kerry/Bush - 53/44
Obama/McCain - 67/31

Not really a trend, just a data point.

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 16:12:36

Yeah, I just don't think southern republicans stand much of a chance with hispanics the way things have been going.

Maybe someone from the same cloth as Christie could do well though with them though.

by **dajafi** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 16:37:53

jerseyhoya wrote:Gore/Bush - 62/35
Kerry/Bush - 53/44
Obama/McCain - 67/31

Not really a trend, just a data point.

True, but McCain at that point was probably more Hispanic-friendly than any other Republican candidate would have been, and much more than anyone who's plausible right now as their 2012 nominee. This seems like a problem that will get worse for the Republicans.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 16:42:40

McCain was good with Hispanics, but the year was bad for the GOP with poor people and new voters and the Dems running a brown person. It might get better, it probably won't get much worse than 30%, but that's abysmal/unsustainably bad if the GOP wants to be competitive nationally long term. That's why I was saying that's the thing I'm worried about, not Mississippi's state flag.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 16:48:34

Good for kos

The data should be really interesting to dig into

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 17:17:06

jerseyhoya wrote:Gore/Bush - 62/35
Kerry/Bush - 53/44
Obama/McCain - 67/31

Not really a trend, just a data point.

I know that some anti-immigrant conservatives argue that Bush's 44% is unreliable, and somehow draw from that premise the conclusion the Republican party shouldn't embrace Bush-style reform.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 17:19:07

jerseyhoya wrote:Kagan just got confirmed

So this needs to be edited/corrected...

by **pacino** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 17:58:53

Boy, everything's really coming up Millhouse lately in regards to the political sphere.

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