Blumenthal, Paul and other idiots...POLITICS Thread

Postby thephan » Wed May 26, 2010 15:47:06

I believe that the largest, sanctioned and active minefield in the world is the DMZ. That slows the emigration south one would think. Unlike horror shows like Angola, where mines are everywhere maiming the populace daily and largely forgotten, the DMZ is active and maintained. I have not spent time in Korea, and am rather glad as it sound pretty horrible.
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Postby pacino » Wed May 26, 2010 18:53:52

Wait, are we expecting this top kill thing to actually work?
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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed May 26, 2010 18:58:32

If it doesn't, the spew gets worse.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu May 27, 2010 09:37:06

I love that Blumenthal is beating McMahon by 25 points. Nominating conventions in theory are supposed to avoid bloody primary battles, but it seems like delegates to these things (see: Bennett, Bob) pick stupid candidates with as great a frequency as regular old primaries.

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Postby dajafi » Thu May 27, 2010 09:45:53

jerseyhoya wrote:I love that Blumenthal is beating McMahon by 25 points. Nominating conventions in theory are supposed to avoid bloody primary battles, but it seems like delegates to these things (see: Bennett, Bob) pick stupid candidates with as great a frequency as regular old primaries.


it's an obvious point, but it seems like the way to beat a bloodless/inoffensive career pol who lied about his military service would have been to run a similar guy who happens to be a decorated vet from the same war, rather than an unlikable harpy who happens to be really rich.

That said, my understanding is that Simmons could have stayed in for a primary in August. Did the party bosses push him out?

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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu May 27, 2010 09:48:04

He could have stayed in but he would have lost. He didn't have the money to compete with her, the state party, and everything else.

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Postby thephan » Thu May 27, 2010 10:07:57

pacino wrote:Wait, are we expecting this top kill thing to actually work?


BP official takes the 5th, so no.
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Postby drsmooth » Thu May 27, 2010 10:22:50

dajafi wrote:
That said, my understanding is that Simmons could have stayed in for a primary in August. Did the party bosses push him out?


I believe your understanding is correct. Simmons ain't dead yet - but the lateness of the hour (august) probably won't help him...(?) hoya, help us out here.

EDIT: :oops: note to self - refresh page before chiming in. UPI summary of Simmons folding his tent

and I don't usually read Gail Collins, but her particular tone is right for summing up the sitch with CT's Sexy Bitch



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Postby cshort » Thu May 27, 2010 12:25:32

dajafi wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:I love that Blumenthal is beating McMahon by 25 points. Nominating conventions in theory are supposed to avoid bloody primary battles, but it seems like delegates to these things (see: Bennett, Bob) pick stupid candidates with as great a frequency as regular old primaries.


it's an obvious point, but it seems like the way to beat a bloodless/inoffensive career pol who lied about his military service would have been to run a similar guy who happens to be a decorated vet from the same war, rather than an unlikable harpy who happens to be really rich.

That said, my understanding is that Simmons could have stayed in for a primary in August. Did the party bosses push him out?


The White House offered him a cabinet position
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Postby drsmooth » Thu May 27, 2010 12:28:29

cshort wrote:
dajafi wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:I love that Blumenthal is beating McMahon by 25 points. Nominating conventions in theory are supposed to avoid bloody primary battles, but it seems like delegates to these things (see: Bennett, Bob) pick stupid candidates with as great a frequency as regular old primaries.


it's an obvious point, but it seems like the way to beat a bloodless/inoffensive career pol who lied about his military service would have been to run a similar guy who happens to be a decorated vet from the same war, rather than an unlikable harpy who happens to be really rich.

That said, my understanding is that Simmons could have stayed in for a primary in August. Did the party bosses push him out?


The White House offered him a cabinet position


that black bastard's got his hooks into all the action
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Postby Rococo4 » Thu May 27, 2010 13:10:35

blumenthal will beat mcmahon probably with around 54-55%, maybe a tad lower if things get worse for democrats nationwide. he and simmons would be an absolute down to the wire matchup.

he should get back in, but he cant compete with her unlimited funds, its a shame. mcmahon is a travesty and the people that gave her the endorsement cost themselves a great shot at the seat and gave democrats the chance to spend money elsewhere

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Postby drsmooth » Thu May 27, 2010 16:30:25

Rococo4 wrote:blumenthal will beat mcmahon probably with around 54-55%, maybe a tad lower if things get worse for democrats nationwide. he and simmons would be an absolute down to the wire matchup.

he should get back in, but he cant compete with her unlimited funds, its a shame. mcmahon is a travesty and the people that gave her the endorsement cost themselves a great shot at the seat and gave democrats the chance to spend money elsewhere


"the people" = republican party maker/breakers, therefore...?
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Postby drsmooth » Thu May 27, 2010 16:49:40

I never look at Real Clear Politics, so have no idea where they're coming from, but wherever that is, there's precious little understanding of US health care there:

RealClearPolitics' take on Don Berwick

This is probably the dumbest of the many, many, many, many dumb takes on US health care & its possible futures that I can remember scanning, and I've scanned a bunch.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu May 27, 2010 16:53:12

RealClearPolitics is a news aggregation site. It's like Drudge for op-eds from around the country. I think three people actually work for them (Bevan, Trende and Cost). They have mostly conservative leaning links, but they have every Krugman column, Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd, Dionne, etc.

Edit: Actually they have a few new blogs, so maybe 5-6 people write for them. In any case the article you linked to is just on their site, it wasn't produced in house though.

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Postby drsmooth » Thu May 27, 2010 17:02:55

jerseyhoya wrote:RealClearPolitics is a news aggregation site. It's like Drudge for op-eds from around the country. I think three people actually work for them (Bevan, Trende and Cost). They have mostly conservative leaning links, but they have every Krugman column, Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd, Dionne, etc.

Edit: Actually they have a few new blogs, so maybe 5-6 people write for them. In any case the article you linked to is just on their site, it wasn't produced in house though.


got it, thank you. All the views in a print fit, or the like.
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Postby dajafi » Thu May 27, 2010 17:15:36

drsmooth wrote:
dajafi wrote:
That said, my understanding is that Simmons could have stayed in for a primary in August. Did the party bosses push him out?


I believe your understanding is correct. Simmons ain't dead yet - but the lateness of the hour (august) probably won't help him...(?) hoya, help us out here.

EDIT: :oops: note to self - refresh page before chiming in. UPI summary of Simmons folding his tent

and I don't usually read Gail Collins, but her particular tone is right for summing up the sitch with CT's Sexy Bitch



oh, and dajafi, how is it you're still alive & posting after your grand tour of Chicago O'Hare's hospitality offerings a few hours ago?


Yeah, the Collins piece was spot on. I don't always enjoy her tone of above-it-all bemusement--it's like she's Dowd's older sister--but it works for this one.

dajafi is brought to you this afternoon by a very large iced coffee and various sugar products. I've been at work for about four hours now, periodically hallucinating but fairly productive other than the pure awfulness of breaking the news to one of the team members that she's being laid off. Give me ten O'Hares before I have to do that again.

The Phillies better fucking win the game tonight.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu May 27, 2010 17:19:24

dajafi wrote:The Phillies better $#@! win the game tonight.


Probably the most important sentence in politics thread history

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Postby drsmooth » Thu May 27, 2010 17:25:16

jerseyhoya wrote:
dajafi wrote:The Phillies better $#@! win the game tonight.


Probably the most important sentence in politics thread history


freakin' national security issue
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Postby Rococo4 » Thu May 27, 2010 17:46:02

drsmooth wrote:
Rococo4 wrote:blumenthal will beat mcmahon probably with around 54-55%, maybe a tad lower if things get worse for democrats nationwide. he and simmons would be an absolute down to the wire matchup.

he should get back in, but he cant compete with her unlimited funds, its a shame. mcmahon is a travesty and the people that gave her the endorsement cost themselves a great shot at the seat and gave democrats the chance to spend money elsewhere


"the people" = republican party maker/breakers, therefore...?


therefore they made a stupid, nearsighted decision based on $

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Postby drsmooth » Sat May 29, 2010 23:18:14

TV, this one's for you:

Blanche Lincoln gets a shout-out from Michael Lewis in this humorous weekend op-shot at fatty wall street weasels
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