thephan wrote: Cap and Trade can accomplish this, but I am not sure that it is the most effective means to the necessary end.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:As someone who knows way too much about the military I'm pretty sure SK can crush that crazy tranny by themselves. Sk has the benefit of our training and of our technology. They've been preparing for this for a long time.

I'd imagine the extent of our involvement would be the 20,000 on the ground and then air and naval support. Even then I don't think we'd be bombing very long. NK has little to no military infrastructure they will be mostly using outdated weapons stashed away since the Cold War.

The threat is definitely a nuke but I question whether they've been able to make a small enough one to transport to SK. Let alone japan. If you need any more completely amateur military analysis of the situation on the 38th don't hesitate to ask.

pacino wrote:letter in today's Reading Eagle

Cap and trade is the latest boondoggle supported by President Barack Obama to make redistribution of wealth a reality ("Global warming bill unveiled," Reading Eagle, May 13).

Although Sen. Joe Lieberman's reason for participation in this bill is a bit cloudy, Sen. John Kerry's history of falsifying his Vietnam War record and his record of testifying before Congress about atrocities American troops never committed along with his support of Jane Fonda's movement are more than enough reason to make this legislation suspect of being anti-American.

Cap and trade has nothing to do with climate. It is just another step in the president's march toward socialism.

Cap and trade, according to the president, will make electric rates skyrocket. This latest bit of questionable legislation will pour tax dollars into the Obama-founded Chicago Carbon Exchange, major investors in which are Al Gore and Maurice Strong, architects of the failed Kyoto Protocol.

Holt Confer
Spring Township

I don't know why they always print comments from this guy and others, and yet have NEVER ONCE printed any letter I've ever sent. Ones with, you know, actual facts to rebut some of this idiocy. It's just amazing and nothing gets my blood boiling like reading the letters section of the Reading Eagle (maybe hte comments under the news articles...because that's a great idea)

Phan In Phlorida wrote:

pacino wrote:letter in today's Reading Eagle

Cap and trade is the latest boondoggle supported by President Barack Obama to make redistribution of wealth a reality ("Global warming bill unveiled," Reading Eagle, May 13).

Although Sen. Joe Lieberman's reason for participation in this bill is a bit cloudy, Sen. John Kerry's history of falsifying his Vietnam War record and his record of testifying before Congress about atrocities American troops never committed along with his support of Jane Fonda's movement are more than enough reason to make this legislation suspect of being anti-American.

Cap and trade has nothing to do with climate. It is just another step in the president's march toward socialism.

Cap and trade, according to the president, will make electric rates skyrocket. This latest bit of questionable legislation will pour tax dollars into the Obama-founded Chicago Carbon Exchange, major investors in which are Al Gore and Maurice Strong, architects of the failed Kyoto Protocol.

Holt Confer
Spring Township

I don't know why they always print comments from this guy and others, and yet have NEVER ONCE printed any letter I've ever sent. Ones with, you know, actual facts to rebut some of this idiocy. It's just amazing and nothing gets my blood boiling like reading the letters section of the Reading Eagle (maybe hte comments under the news articles...because that's a great idea)

The guy's name is Holt. Probably has at least 1 gun. You need to use a name like that, a name that screams "patriot". A name like Bolt... Bolt Vanderhuge. Or Dirk... Dirk Hardpeck.

chucktodd
RT @mikememoli: VP Biden, at wounded warriors event last night: "I didn't serve in Vietnam. I don't want to make a Blumenthal mistake here."
39 minutes ago

The Nightman Cometh wrote:As someone who knows way too much about the military I'm pretty sure SK can crush that crazy tranny by themselves. Sk has the benefit of our training and of our technology. They've been preparing for this for a long time.

I'd imagine the extent of our involvement would be the 20,000 on the ground and then air and naval support. Even then I don't think we'd be bombing very long. NK has little to no military infrastructure they will be mostly using outdated weapons stashed away since the Cold War.

The threat is definitely a nuke but I question whether they've been able to make a small enough one to transport to SK. Let alone japan. If you need any more completely amateur military analysis of the situation on the 38th don't hesitate to ask.

jerseyhoya wrote:

chucktodd
RT @mikememoli: VP Biden, at wounded warriors event last night: "I didn't serve in Vietnam. I don't want to make a Blumenthal mistake here."
39 minutes ago

Joe Biden's internal filter has to be among the least effective in the history of major American political figures.

Phan In Phlorida wrote:I think China is a big concern. But by reading between the lines, I have the impression that China has just about had it with that loon. I think the main reason they still put up with him nowadays is the uncontrollable amount of refugees that'll cross the border into China if the NK regime collapses.

jerseyhoya wrote:A normal politician wouldn't make a wise crack at the expense of the nominee of his own party in a major Senate race. Someone with a filter would think, "Sure you could get a laugh from the crowd, but the joke will just get him more negative press locally and nationally." Joe Biden thinks, "Oh $#@! this is funny let's say it."

Phan In Phlorida wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:As someone who knows way too much about the military I'm pretty sure SK can crush that crazy tranny by themselves. Sk has the benefit of our training and of our technology. They've been preparing for this for a long time.

I'd imagine the extent of our involvement would be the 20,000 on the ground and then air and naval support. Even then I don't think we'd be bombing very long. NK has little to no military infrastructure they will be mostly using outdated weapons stashed away since the Cold War.

The threat is definitely a nuke but I question whether they've been able to make a small enough one to transport to SK. Let alone japan. If you need any more completely amateur military analysis of the situation on the 38th don't hesitate to ask.

I think China is a big concern. But by reading between the lines, I have the impression that China has just about had it with that loon. I think the main reason they still put up with him nowadays is the uncontrollable amount of refugees that'll cross the border into China if the NK regime collapses.

thephan wrote:I have wondered if China has seriously considered absorbing North Korea as a state under slightly different circumstances. The ambition of expansion versus the reality of the problems that North Korea is are fascinating. I am sure that China would welcome proper territory on the Sea of Japan.

jamiethekiller wrote:the amount of military presence from US and Japan surrounding NK is unreal. there is absolutely no way that they can successfully launch any sort of missile attack on south korea.

know a guy who is a computer engineer for Lockheed and is constantly traveling to japan to do computer stuff on aircraft carriers and destroyers. says that there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

they have those laser nets or whatever surrounding the country and anything that goes up in the air would be shot down immediately.

Bakestar wrote:
I don't see how that would be feasible unless it became a quasi-occupied state a la Tibet.

Bakestar wrote:

thephan wrote:I have wondered if China has seriously considered absorbing North Korea as a state under slightly different circumstances. The ambition of expansion versus the reality of the problems that North Korea is are fascinating. I am sure that China would welcome proper territory on the Sea of Japan.

I don't see how that would be feasible unless it became a quasi-occupied state a la Tibet.

thephan wrote:

Bakestar wrote:
I don't see how that would be feasible unless it became a quasi-occupied state a la Tibet.

Maybe, maybe not. Tibet struggles against Chinese rule where as North Korea would likely go willingly. Like all good regimes of the people, the haves, have and the rest support the rulers. With the Kims and other leaders set up for life, I do not see a struggle with taking possession of the country. I even see it as a peaceful transition that the world community would be handcuffed to move against.

Now, with that said, there are lessons learned from the reunification of Germany where the East has been a millstone about the neck of the West. Strategically, I think it has to be tempting for China, but the buffer is likely that China get to do whatever it wants for a price today, so why annex a starving population with infrastructure problems.