Politics: Homo abortionists vs the born again gun nuts

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Jun 12, 2009 16:44:20

Tidbit--Maine and Nebraska are the two states that allocate a portion of their electoral votes on by congressional district.
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Postby allentown » Fri Jun 12, 2009 17:14:56

I really like the ideal of a unicameral legislature. In addition to saving $, it does away with the possibility of so many unproductive political games and places legislative responsibility far more heavily on the individual legislators. I wish PA took this route, just eliminating the House. Any rational reason for bicameral legislatures ended with court ruling that all districts must be equivalent size.
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Postby drsmooth » Fri Jun 12, 2009 18:38:26

allentown wrote:I really like the ideal of a unicameral legislature. In addition to saving $, it does away with the possibility of so many unproductive political games and places legislative responsibility far more heavily on the individual legislators. I wish PA took this route, just eliminating the House. Any rational reason for bicameral legislatures ended with court ruling that all districts must be equivalent size.


I would imagine both electorate & pols in NY State are giving this concept a long look....
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Postby dajafi » Fri Jun 12, 2009 23:23:07

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allentown wrote:I really like the ideal of a unicameral legislature. In addition to saving $, it does away with the possibility of so many unproductive political games and places legislative responsibility far more heavily on the individual legislators. I wish PA took this route, just eliminating the House. Any rational reason for bicameral legislatures ended with court ruling that all districts must be equivalent size.


I would imagine both electorate & pols in NY State are giving this concept a long look....


I think we'd eventually just choose to disband and join other states. But then again I'm not sure we'd want New Jersey, or they us for that matter...

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Jun 13, 2009 14:44:44

So, yeah, Iranian elections. Some loss of legitimacy for the establishment at the very least.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:42:01

Sometimes Joe Scarborough sounds thoughtful and reasonable, like on Meet the Press this morning, and not in that lame-o David Brooks way.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:42:25

And, yeah, Iran might be unraveling. Who knows?
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Postby momadance » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:33:14

#cnnfail on twitter. lolz.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10264398-2.html

Some good stuff on Twitter regarding the situation in Iran. Iran tried to block twitter but it hasn't worked out so well.


http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/bahramks/RiotsInTehran#
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Postby momadance » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:39:42

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSECAvBTanQ[/youtube]

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Postby momadance » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:50:37

From Twitter:

unconfirmed unofficial leak of #iranelection results: Mousavi 19,075,623, Ahmadinejad 5,698,417

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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:51:35

That video is pretty nuts

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Jun 14, 2009 13:14:39

momadance wrote:From Twitter:

unconfirmed unofficial leak of #iranelection results: Mousavi 19,075,623, Ahmadinejad 5,698,417


That would be pretty shocking if true.
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Postby momadance » Sun Jun 14, 2009 13:16:48

jerseyhoya wrote:That video is pretty nuts


So is this one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8098834.stm

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Postby pacino » Sun Jun 14, 2009 13:18:26

Anyone sort of mehed about Mousavi since he was even approved to run?
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Postby momadance » Sun Jun 14, 2009 13:23:07

Mousavi is under house arrest.

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Postby kruker » Sun Jun 14, 2009 21:17:59

Two different Salon articles:

Neo-Nazi's in the Army

That's um....yea...

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Postby pacino » Sun Jun 14, 2009 21:22:54

"I hate Arabs more than anybody, for the simple fact I've served over there and seen how they live," he tells me. "They're just a backward people. Them and the Jews are just disgusting people as far as I'm concerned. Their customs, everything to do with the Middle East, is just repugnant to me."

Because of his tattoos and his racist comments, most of his buddies and his commanding officers were aware of his Nazism. "They all knew in my unit," he says. "They would always kid around and say, 'Hey, you're that skinhead!'" But no one sounded an alarm to higher-ups. "I would volunteer for all the hardest missions, and they were like, 'Let Fogarty go.' They didn't want to get rid of me."

Fogarty left the Army in 2005 with an honorable discharge. He says he was asked to reenlist. He declined. He was sick of the system.

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At least he's not a homo!
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Postby kruker » Sun Jun 14, 2009 21:40:53

When it comes to screening out racists at recruitment centers, military regulations appear to have collapsed. "We don't exclude people from the army based on their thoughts," says S. Douglas Smith, an Army public affairs officer. "We exclude based on behavior." He says an "offensive" or "extremist" tattoo "might be a reason for them not to be in the military." Or it might not. "We try to educate recruiters on extremist tattoos," he says, but "the tattoo is a relatively subjective decision" and shouldn't in itself bar enlistment.

What about something as obvious as a swastika? "A swastika would trigger questions," Smith says. "But again, if the gentlemen said, 'I like the way the swastika looked,' and had clean criminal record, it's possible we would allow that person in." "There are First Amendment rights," he adds.


This all goes to the larger issue of mental health being ignored by the military for entrance and veteran care.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Jun 14, 2009 23:35:44

momadance wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch.v=dSECAvBTanQ[/youtube]

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Did Tehran win the world series or something?
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Postby dajafi » Mon Jun 15, 2009 03:42:40

I was very excited about the Iran elections, particularly (if irrationally) after the shockingly good news from Lebanon last week.

But this straight-up sucks, and what adds a double heaping of suck is that there isn't much if anything we can do about it, at least not overtly. An attack, or probably even new sanctions or international condemnation, actually strengthens Ahmadinejad's regime. Disengaging further just adds incentive for them to speed up weapons development and generally continue poking us in the eye. And acting as if the election is legit further erodes our credibility and makes us look weak.

If the CIA weren't such a proven nexus of incompetence, maybe they could effectively stir up some shit. But I doubt that too.

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