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Postby dajafi » Wed Jun 10, 2009 22:29:44

There was a corrupt tax system up there and we had a couple of lawmakers end up in jail because of the tax system that was adopted so we cleaned it up and said we wanted a fair and equitable share of the resources that we own, and the people will share in those resource revenues that are derived.


I just figured out what this (and so many other Palinesque phrasings) reminds me of: the time I tried ketamine.

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Postby CrashburnAlley » Wed Jun 10, 2009 22:36:47

dajafi wrote:
There was a corrupt tax system up there and we had a couple of lawmakers end up in jail because of the tax system that was adopted so we cleaned it up and said we wanted a fair and equitable share of the resources that we own, and the people will share in those resource revenues that are derived.


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Postby dajafi » Wed Jun 10, 2009 23:05:35

CrashburnAlley wrote:
dajafi wrote:
There was a corrupt tax system up there and we had a couple of lawmakers end up in jail because of the tax system that was adopted so we cleaned it up and said we wanted a fair and equitable share of the resources that we own, and the people will share in those resource revenues that are derived.


LOLSOCIALISM


Kinda what I was getting at on the last page there, Crash. 8-)

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Postby CrashburnAlley » Wed Jun 10, 2009 23:12:08

dajafi wrote:
CrashburnAlley wrote:
dajafi wrote:
There was a corrupt tax system up there and we had a couple of lawmakers end up in jail because of the tax system that was adopted so we cleaned it up and said we wanted a fair and equitable share of the resources that we own, and the people will share in those resource revenues that are derived.


LOLSOCIALISM


Kinda what I was getting at on the last page there, Crash. 8-)


Oh, I know, I just wanted to add my two cents. "lolsocialism". You won't find that kind of high-quality analysis on cable TV, will you?
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Postby gr » Wed Jun 10, 2009 23:57:04

i remember the time i got worked up over that nader interview on olbermann's show.
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Postby dajafi » Wed Jun 10, 2009 23:59:34

Great David Leonhardt analysis of our budget problem. Key excerpt:

Alan Auerbach, an economist at the University of California, Berkeley, and an author of a widely cited study on the dangers of the current deficits, describes the situation like so: “Bush behaved incredibly irresponsibly for eight years. On the one hand, it might seem unfair for people to blame Obama for not fixing it. On the other hand, he’s not fixing it.”


Basically, the American people have to nut up and agree to accept either higher taxation or lower expenditure (or both). Problem is that it's pretty much impossible to win elections with that message. Worse, the Democrats probably overstate the value of current investments in terms of future savings, and the Republicans are still totally in thrall to magical thinking about upper-end tax cuts yielding rainbows and ponies for every American down the generations.

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Postby kruker » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:43:25

Doing the right thing isn't politically feasible, so we're just going to burn this mother down.
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Postby Werthless » Thu Jun 11, 2009 13:14:28

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Postby kruker » Thu Jun 11, 2009 15:47:52

Baucus, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee and a key figure in the health debate, has publicly lectured Elmendorf, saying he has a moral duty to be "creative" and deliver the favorable budget estimates "we have to have" to win broad support.

Elmendorf said the CBO would never "adjust our views to make people happy." When a health plan finally emerges, he said, his office will offer an objective analysis, "without regard to the political consequences."

"CBO is not going to make or break health-care reform," Elmendorf said in an interview. "Whether health-care reform happens depends on the judgment of members of Congress. We'll provide information that helps them make that judgment. But the decisions are theirs."


Hey Max, we all want health care reform, but not at the cost or under the auspices of distorted numbers. That first paragraph has me seeing red right now, though that response by Elmendorf is laudable.

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Postby dajafi » Thu Jun 11, 2009 19:42:19

Baucus is basically a doofus with an occasional pragmatic streak--sort of the Democrats' hetero (as far as I know) Lindsay Graham.

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Postby dajafi » Thu Jun 11, 2009 19:47:53

Boob governor asks "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the lobbyists?":

Polls show New York Gov. David Paterson (D) as one of the least popular governors in the nation and the leadership revolt in the state Senate isn't helping improve his stature. The governor has been "largely relegated to the sidelines" in the dispute, reports the New York Times.

However, Paterson made "one of the more unusual pleas for sanity" when he asked lawmakers to "think of the lobbyists" in urging their return to the Senate. He went on to explain that they had worked hard "to persuade legislative leaders and legislators of issues."


As for the Republicans taking back the state senate: good. They suck equally, and ideally what this will lead to is Malcolm Smith--who makes Paterson look statesmanlike--getting taken out like Billy Bats in "GoodFellas."

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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jun 11, 2009 19:53:14

Jay Webber named new NJ GOP chair. A real conservative actually as State GOP chair, possibly a first. Interesting, good choice by Christie I think. Webber is a smart guy.

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Postby drsmooth » Thu Jun 11, 2009 22:47:46

Werthless wrote:[img]yesterday's%20(not%20even%20then)%20news[/img]


it's over, son. move on.
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Postby allentown » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:22:23

kruker wrote:Mankiw pointed this out in his blog, from the Washington Post:

Here is just one: The bill would give the federal government power over local building codes. It requires that by 2012 codes must require that new buildings be 30 percent more efficient than they would have been under current regulations. By 2016, that figure rises to 50 percent, with increases scheduled for years after that. With those targets in mind, the bill expects organizations that develop model codes for states and localities to fill in the details, creating a national code. If they don't, the bill commands the Energy Department to draft a national code itself.


States, meanwhile, would have to adopt the national code or one that achieves the same efficiency targets. Those that refuse will see their codes overwritten automatically, and they will be docked federal funds and carbon "allowances" -- valuable securities created elsewhere in the bill that give the holder the right to pollute and can be sold.The Energy Department also could enforce its code itself. Among other things, the policy would demonstrate the new leverage of allocation of allowances as a sort of carbon currency -- leverage this bill would be giving to Congress to direct state behavior.

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Is the best way to achieve that, though, to federalize what has long been a matter of local concern? And if the point of cap-and-trade is to change market incentives, why does Congress, and not the market, need to dictate these changes? Those are a few questions that emerge when you begin to read through the 900 pages.


Get the cap and trade right and the federales won't have to play the role of overbearing parent.

It's as if they are going to tell us what the penalties are for staying out late, but just in case, they are going to chaperon the date anyway.

Local building codes are for the most part mythical. There had been basically 3 national (regional) building/fire codes, with BOCA and NFPA being the dominant ones. There has been an on-going movement, led by state regulators and the big insurers and their fire protection consultants, to merge these into a single national code. This is not something that had its genesis in federal nannyism. These codes have become far to technical and detailed for the local authorities to write. Frankly, most of the local code enforcers don't understand 5% of what is in the codes, which is why they frequently ignore the glaring safety violations and focus on the most absurdly nitty gritty trivia.
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Postby Werthless » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:26:05

drsmooth wrote:
Werthless wrote:[img]yesterday's%20(not%20even%20then)%20news[/img]


it's over, son. move on.

Your (non-baseball) posts are embarrassing to read.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:40:51

Democrats and Republicans are slightly more likely to root for the Yankees than the Mets or Phillies than Independents, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today showing 44% of state voters interested in baseball say the New York Yankees are their favorite baseball team. Democrats and Republicans are essentially the same when it comes to picking a baseball team.

21% of New Jersey voters say the New York Mets are their favorite team, and 20% say it is the Philadelphia Phillies.

Among Democrats: Yankees 46%, Phillies 21%, Mets 20%.
Among Republicans, Yankees 44%, Phillies 21%, Mets 20%
Among Independents: Yankees 41%, Mets 22%, Phillies 20%

"Dress New Jersey baseball fans - men and women, young and old - in Yankee pinstripes. There are just about as many Yankee fans as there are Phillies and Mets backers combined. Only in the Philadelphia suburbs do the Phillies dominate," said Clay Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Statewide, 5% of New Jersey voters like the Boston Red Sox; that number is at 4% among Democrats and Republicans, and 7% among Independents. The Red Sox also do better among voters between the ages of 18-34, and among voters who live in Essex and Hudson counties.


Random tidbit. A factoid, if you will.

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Postby Werthless » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:46:19

I can't imagine being a Red Sox fan in north jersey.

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Postby kruker » Fri Jun 12, 2009 15:40:04

Maine moving to a unicameral legislature

After voting to shrink itself, the Maine House has now endorsed a plan to replace itself, and the State Senate, with a so-called unicameral Legislature that would merge both chambers into one body. That proposed constitutional amendment would create one chamber that would have 151 members - the same number that the House currently contains - and reduce the size of the Legislture by 35 members. Supporters say it's time for a change.
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Postby lethal » Fri Jun 12, 2009 15:50:24

How's unicameralism working out in Nebraska?

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 16:12:27

kruker wrote:Maine moving to a unicameral legislature

After voting to shrink itself, the Maine House has now endorsed a plan to replace itself, and the State Senate, with a so-called unicameral Legislature that would merge both chambers into one body. That proposed constitutional amendment would create one chamber that would have 151 members - the same number that the House currently contains - and reduce the size of the Legislture by 35 members. Supporters say it's time for a change.


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