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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 30, 2008 18:55:28

CFP wrote:Oh my God there is another interview on right now and it's going awfully for Palin



Where?

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Postby lethal » Tue Sep 30, 2008 18:58:22

CFP wrote:Oh my God there is another interview on right now and it's going awfully for Palin


CBS Evening News?

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Postby CFP » Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:00:24

Yeah it was on there a few minutes ago.

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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:01:33

Was it them showing the long silence after the supreme court question?

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Postby Camp Holdout » Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:02:41

CFP wrote:Yeah it was on there a few minutes ago.


was this a part of it? http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4490056n

i missed it too. tomorrow and thursday is the VP questions on the cbs evening news series where she is supposed to say she cant name a court case beyond roe v wade and some other unknown answer that is supposed to be equally retarded.

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Postby lethal » Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:14:48

Camp Holdout wrote:
CFP wrote:Yeah it was on there a few minutes ago.


was this a part of it? http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4490056n

i missed it too. tomorrow and thursday is the VP questions on the cbs evening news series where she is supposed to say she cant name a court case beyond roe v wade and some other unknown answer that is supposed to be equally retarded.


Umm...couldn't she say the same thing re: Obama vis a vis McCain? I don't see why she would even bring this argument to the table. At least she was coherent here.

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Postby Camp Holdout » Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:21:47

lethal wrote:
Camp Holdout wrote:
CFP wrote:Yeah it was on there a few minutes ago.


was this a part of it? http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4490056n

i missed it too. tomorrow and thursday is the VP questions on the cbs evening news series where she is supposed to say she cant name a court case beyond roe v wade and some other unknown answer that is supposed to be equally retarded.


Umm...couldn't she say the same thing re: Obama vis a vis McCain? I don't see why she would even bring this argument to the table. At least she was coherent here.


yeah, i mean saying "it wasn't anything negative" was just ultra hyper BS. i dont think anyone would dispute that.

i guess some pieces of it are starting to hit youtube so keep your eyes out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y

that one will be word for word repeated by tina fey... "which newspaper?" "any of em. all of em!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185H2X1dNZI

seriously, most of what she says makes me laugh, that last one one actually just makes me incredibly angry (but i have some strong feelings about feminism i guess and am really disheartened when opportunities like she has get turned into setting feminist ideas back a few decades).

okay this person seems to be puttng all the clips up.. http://www.youtube.com/user/m35nyntk545

(man youtube is quick these days) a few gems in there:

on the topic of global warming: "it kind of doesn't matter at this point as we debate what caused it."

on abortion in cases of rape or incest: you are just going to have to watch that one on your own. but watching that back to back with the feminist answer might cause you to throw things (like i did).

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Postby phdave » Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:47:27

Camp Holdout wrote:on abortion in cases of rape or incest: you are just going to have to watch that one on your own. but watching that back to back with the feminist answer might cause you to throw things (like i did).


Counseling someone to choose life and supporting them after they have the baby is not the same as making abortion illegal.
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Postby CFP » Tue Sep 30, 2008 20:06:52

Good God

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM69AFNyCt4[/youtube]

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Postby mpmcgraw » Tue Sep 30, 2008 20:13:15

Do all people in Alaska talk like that? (and no I don't mean stupid)

That is seriously the worst accent ever. I like the idea of stayin in Alaska for a little bit just for the hell of it at some point in my life, but if the people that live there all talk like that there is no way in hell.

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Postby CFP » Tue Sep 30, 2008 20:19:02

I just don't understand how she makes fun of Biden's age when McCain is older. It's just classic at this point. Their campaign has no direction. (By the way, I really hadn't posted in the politics thread much until the last few days. Seeing that I am a political science major and all, I'm going to try and be in here more often.)

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Postby CMD » Tue Sep 30, 2008 20:25:59

I could care less if she thinks Biden is old. Its the fact that there doesn't seem to be any thought or preparation put into these interviews. Didn't she (or her speech writers) think that comment might come back to her? Maybe she could have prepared a simple "I respect his service" or something?

I hope something can get her off-script during the debate. Joe Biden says some stupid stuff, too, but you generally get the feeling he knows his stuff & that there is substance behind the answers.

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Postby Philly the Kid » Tue Sep 30, 2008 21:34:30

Monkeyboy wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Re: Failing banks. No one seriously is arguing that people don't get hurt when businesses fail. It's that propping them up when they are obsolete economically is extremely costly and inefficient, causing far more economic dislocation in the long run. The bailout in this case would be a huge misallocation of capital, at taxpayer expense, and ultimately would not work anyway.

The myth that needs to be exploded is that capitalism works for everyone. Rather, in capitalism, the market picks winners and losers. In planned economies, the political system does the picking instead. But in a dynamic economy of any variety, there are going to be winners and losers.
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This is pretty much how I see it, for right or wrong. The strong survive and the weak and/or stupid are replaced. Companies aren't people, even if they do have some of the same rights.

So I prefer they take another week, if necessary, and fully vet the other ideas floating around to make sure they get this right. I couldn't care less if the banks fail if they have another way of stabilizing the economy. Wall Street isn't going to self destruct in that time..... big money won't let that happen.


What you call "strong" I would often call, opportunitsit or just flat lucky.

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Postby karn » Tue Sep 30, 2008 21:34:52

Don't forget, she knows hard times. Growing up, she was expected to catch, kill, cook and prepare dinner for her family utilizing only the abundance of naturally occurrent Alaskan game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185H2X1dNZI

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Postby Bakestar » Tue Sep 30, 2008 21:41:03

mpmcgraw wrote:Do all people in Alaska talk like that? (and no I don't mean stupid)

That is seriously the worst accent ever. I like the idea of stayin in Alaska for a little bit just for the hell of it at some point in my life, but if the people that live there all talk like that there is no way in hell.


I wonder if they're coaching her to play it up to appeal to the base/tard voters in the party. Like they did with Bush's Texas-via-Yale idiot drawl.
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Postby Philly the Kid » Tue Sep 30, 2008 21:58:15

What's so scary about Palin, is that the "real thing" is parody-like. We have reached a point where the spoof is the reality.

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Postby Philly the Kid » Tue Sep 30, 2008 22:01:31

The banks need capital and stabilization. I find it very peculiar this un-easy alliance of far right and far left. I being far left, would like to see any new directions involve TOTAL TRANSPARENCY, tight regulations and rules and independent entities monitoring.

I can't get a clear read yet on who is up to what and what there goals are, but Naomi Wolf (not Naomi Klein) has a scary analysis. How this impacts why Republicans in congress are voting down the bail-out? Not clear to me.

I just know that things are dicey -- for all of us. So odd to me that we have a presidential election now, and none of them are saying anything profound or inspiring, or innovative. Who would you follow in to a burning building?

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Tue Sep 30, 2008 22:04:30

Why would you follow anyone into a burning building?

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Sep 30, 2008 22:29:22

CFP wrote:Geez... not one? Did she pay attention to the recent court cases? D.C. v. Heller? Anything. Lawrence v. Texas. Mapp v. Ohio. Brown v. Board. Come on.


Or hasn't she ever seen a cop show where the bad guy gets his Miranda rights read?
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