Caroline K's main competition, the other Caroline:

that's hot

edit: OK, now you put up an actual image

jerseyhoya wrote:I was just summarizing what Rove said after Pacino made his Rove poohpooed the speech comment.

Oh, okay. Didn't realize you were summarizing Rove.

On another note, I thought this was mildly interesting:

the only unscripted moment of the convention was when the Obama girls took the microphone to speak to their father over a satellite hook up after their mother's speech. It was also a reminder of President Kennedy raising a young family in the White House.

Whether or not this is literally true, it's why I'm pretty much only interested in the speeches by Biden and Obama. Most everything else is propaganda and ego stroking--not that the speeches aren't propaganda, of course, but at least they might have some bearing on what happens when it's time to vote.

I guess the signals of relative conciliation or dead-enderness from the Clintons might matter too, but my digestion is likely to be messed up enough with those Mets games the next two nights. Gotta prioritize the agita.

dajafi wrote:I'm just kind of bummed that her brother is no longer the hoops coach at Brown. (He moved on to some bigger school with a higher-profile program.)

Well, you really do learn something new everyday... even if you're the last to learn it

Craig Robinson was a two-time Ivy League Player of the Year at Princeton University, graduating in 1983 with an AB in Sociology. He is the fourth highest scorer in school history. He earned an MBA in Finance from the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business in 1992.

Robinson was drafted in the fourth round of the 1983 NBA draft by the Philadelphia 76ers, but never played in the league.

The NBA draft once had four rounds?

Obviously, if Ivy League stiffs were making their way in

used to be over 10 rounds way back when

Stop it TP, you Rick Santorum-looking deviant creep

Woody wrote:Stop it TP, you Rick Santorum-looking deviant creep

Freaks you out when a Republican likes a Dem? Izzat kinda like dating a Mets fan?

Aiiiiiight, last one. Probably at her cuteness peak:



Rich girls often have that fresh-scrubbed look about them.

go eat some pizza and fall asleep

Slowhand wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

pacino wrote:

mpmcgraw wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:I've had a crush on Caroline for 35 years. She's not beautiful, but she is sexy.

i dont know who you are talking about but im going to guess she is fat

Caroline Kennedy

not fat

Supposedly Caroline Kennedy was Neil Diamond's inspiration for "Sweet Caroline." When she was 11.

i hate the way people are put into groups sometimes. 'biden goes to the bowling alleys, michelle goes to malvern and the main line'. - chris matthews

couldn't they go to both? it's like people who go to fancy schools can't bowl, and vice-versa?

i also don't get why we all insist on overstating this 'only in america' bullcrap. plenty of people in other nations have 'come up' too

Interesting article about McCain from a fellow POW:

http://www.alternet.org/story/95825/

This guy isn't a huge fan--as you'd expect from something on alternet.org--and he gets some facts wrong (McCain's age, for one). But I don't think this qualifies as swift-boating, either: he offers a lot of praise (frankly I think the stories about McCain raising hell at Annapolis are endearing, and the POW stuff is almost beyond comprehension in its power, even if it isn't particularly relevant to the position McCain now seeks) and seems to like the guy--just doesn't think he should be president.

really, really need jhoya's and/or TP's reactions to this:

NYTimes Op-Ed - William Kristol wrote: A Joe of His Own?

Would McCain-Lieberman have a better prospect of winning than the more conventional alternatives? If they could get over the early hurdles of a messy convention and an awful lot of conservative angst and anger, I’ve come to think so.

"I've also come to huffing paint thinner chased with muscatel"

Stuart Scott: “If your vice president had to be an athlete, who would you pick?”
Obama: “Well, I'll tell you what. I'm a Chicago guy, so I'm thinking Walter Payton. ‘Sweetness.’ That guy had durability -- he could block as well as run. Michael -- doesn't lose, and, since I haven't won the presidency yet, that wouldn't be a bad teammate to have. I'd just keep on feeding him and figure he'd hit the last shot.”

Walter Payton had durability right up until he died a few years ago. I mean really, he's not alive, why would you suggest picking him?

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/08/stu-scott-interview-with-barack-obama.html

drsmooth wrote:really, really need jhoya's and/or TP's reactions to this:

NYTimes Op-Ed - William Kristol wrote: A Joe of His Own?

Would McCain-Lieberman have a better prospect of winning than the more conventional alternatives? If they could get over the early hurdles of a messy convention and an awful lot of conservative angst and anger, I’ve come to think so.

"I've also come to huffing paint thinner chased with muscatel"

I think if McCain picked Lieberman, and simultaneously took a 1 term pledge and Lieberman pledged not to run for reelection, that might be the sort of thing that would play well. It's a high risk/high reward type thing. Otherwise, I'd be really, really angry if he picked Lieberman though. There are tens of millions of Republicans in the country. Pick one of them to be your Veep.

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:really, really need jhoya's and/or TP's reactions to this:

NYTimes Op-Ed - William Kristol wrote: A Joe of His Own?

Would McCain-Lieberman have a better prospect of winning than the more conventional alternatives? If they could get over the early hurdles of a messy convention and an awful lot of conservative angst and anger, I’ve come to think so.

"I've also come to huffing paint thinner chased with muscatel"

I think if McCain picked Lieberman, and simultaneously took a 1 term pledge and Lieberman pledged not to run for reelection, that might be the sort of thing that would play well. It's a high risk/high reward type thing. Otherwise, I'd be really, really angry if he picked Lieberman though. There are tens of millions of Republicans in the country. Pick one of them to be your Veep.

You might be right about the politics. But in addition to being something of a diss against those tens of millions of Republicans, it would also send the message that McCain is really, really, really uninterested in domestic issues. All he and Holy Joe have in common substance-wise is the shoot-first thing.

Otherwise, I think the one-term pledge is a non-starter. Right or wrong (and I can see reasons why it could be a good thing for someone like McCain), the result would be to lame-duck whoever made it right after they were sworn in. I don't think it's a coincidence that Nixon, Clinton and Bush all fared so much worse, politically and substantively, after they were made lame ducks by the 22nd Amendment.

Fox was tearing apart the first night of the convention. It was laughable.

I watched MSNBcs coverage for the most part. Olberman slob knobbing the night was too much. I enjoy Matthews' and Chuck Todd's insights.