Politics: The Wrath of Veep

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon May 26, 2008 21:54:54

LIKES

¶Planters Trail Mix: Nuts, Seeds & Raisins

¶Roasted almonds

¶Pistachios

¶Water

¶Dentyne Ice

¶Nicorette

¶MET-Rx chocolate roasted peanut protein bars

¶Vegetables, especially broccoli and spinach

¶Hand-made milk chocolates from Fran’s Chocolates in Seattle

DISLIKES

¶Mayonnaise

¶Salt and vinegar potato chips

¶Asparagus (“if no other vegetables are available, he’ll eat it”)

¶ Soft drinks (he prefers water)


Obama's likes and dislikes...

I can really get behind him liking broccoli, which is probably my favorite veggie, rivaled only by string beans. But since he doesn't like salt and vinegar potato chips or soft drinks, I'm not sure he has the judgment necessary to lead this country.

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Postby steagles » Mon May 26, 2008 22:01:50

jerseyhoya wrote:
LIKES

¶Planters Trail Mix: Nuts, Seeds & Raisins

¶Roasted almonds

¶Pistachios

¶Water

¶Dentyne Ice

¶Nicorette

¶MET-Rx chocolate roasted peanut protein bars

¶Vegetables, especially broccoli and spinach

¶Hand-made milk chocolates from Fran’s Chocolates in Seattle

DISLIKES

¶Mayonnaise

¶Salt and vinegar potato chips

¶Asparagus (“if no other vegetables are available, he’ll eat it”)

¶ Soft drinks (he prefers water)


Obama's likes and dislikes...

I can really get behind him liking broccoli, which is probably my favorite veggie, rivaled only by string beans. But since he doesn't like salt and vinegar potato chips or soft drinks, I'm not sure he has the judgment necessary to lead this country.
i'm with him on just about all of this. soft drinks suck. mayonnaise is disgusting, and trail mix is good.
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Postby TomatoPie » Mon May 26, 2008 22:47:26

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Postby dajafi » Mon May 26, 2008 23:06:15

He's a healthier guy than I am. Obviously. And the denunciation of mayonnaise does speak well for his judgment.

Broccoli: also the only veggie I'll eat with any particular enthusiasm.

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Postby TomatoPie » Mon May 26, 2008 23:24:28

dajafi wrote: And the denunciation of mayonnaise does speak well for his judgment.


Even the liberal Phila Inquirer does not endorse Obama on that issue:

The mayonnaise season is upon us
As we head into picnic season, mayonnaise plays a star role.
By Joyce Gemperlein

For The Inquirer

My life is ruled by this question: What can I put mayonnaise on today?
....

Calling mayonnaise a condiment, which connotes an ingredient attached to something of a higher order, slights it.
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A New York delicatessen owner named Richard Hellmann did not invent mayonnaise in the early 1900s, even though he began jarring his wife's blend, which was destined to become ubiquitous in the United States, and eventually over much of the world. Note that his wife's name seems lost to history, adding the element of sex discrimination to the tale. (It bears the Hellmann's label in most of the United States, except west of the Rockies, where it's called Best Foods mayo.)
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It has international appeal.

For example, real Belgian French fries are served with mayonnaise and mayonnaise-based sauces. Throughout Mexico, corn on the cob roasted on a fire is rolled in mayonnaise before being coated with cheese. In Oaxaca, some stores carry 39 types, and people often just put a dollop on bread to eat as a sandwich. Grocery stores in Brazil carry jarred mayonnaise in many forms; added ingredients may be tuna or carrots, garlic or lime, cucumbers or onions.

It is a huge deal in Japan, among other countries, where one brand even has a type flavored with cheese. Mayonnaise was introduced to Japan in 1925 by QP Corp. Called Kewpie mayonnaise, it is identified by a drawing of a naked baby doll. Made with rice vinegar, it is tangier (less sweet), more savory and silkier than standard commercial U.S. mayonnaise. And it has been used as a condiment on vegetables, meats and sushi for years. But now it is the rage among young people who are putting it on rice.

There's even a word in Japan for people who love mayonnaise: mayolers. At the Mayonnaise Kitchen, a restaurant devoted to mayonnaise outside Tokyo, bar specialties include the Mayogarita and the Mayoty Dog, vodka-based drinks served in mayonnaise-rimmed glasses.
....

Food scientists have also developed a way to make mayonnaise with cooked egg yolks to ease the worry that some home cooks have about eating raw eggs possibly tainted with salmonella bacteria. (See accompanying recipe). Commercially made mayonnaise contains pasteurized egg yolks, making this irrelevant.
....

When a potato salad, a crab cake, a macaroni salad, a deviled egg are excellent, do people credit the mayonnaise?

Never.
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It is controversial.

For every 10 people who love mayonnaise, there is always one person who abhors it and considers anyone who likes it to be strange, or to have an eating disorder.

Just the other day my daughter told me, in a shocked tone, about a girl she knew who obviously had an eating disorder because she had been seen eating a tablespoon of mayonnaise, all by itself.

I didn't know what to say.


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Postby swishnicholson » Mon May 26, 2008 23:32:44

I'm definitely in the anti-mayonnaise camp. From time to time I'll pick up a sandwich from Wawa. It drives me crazy that sometimes they won't list mayonnaise as an ingredient when it is, thus leaving my mouth full to bursting with disappointment and disgust at the first bite.

To keep this in a political vein, I'm hoping Obama will do something about this. Although some would argue that someone who doesn't even eat mayonnaise is scarcely qualified to regulate it.
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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Mon May 26, 2008 23:50:20

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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Mon May 26, 2008 23:54:06

TomatoPie wrote:I so much want to like the Libertarians, I fully endorse their notion of smaller government. But they really embarass themselves on international events.

I was watching their convention on C-Span, and one of those nonimated for President was a cute little gal who looked like Annie Hall. She accepted the nomination from Comic Book Guy and haltingly began her speech. She was charming at first, but soon switched to a snarling rant about US imperialism. I had to move her into the wingnut column.

Christine Smith has a strict libertarian stance on domestic and foreign policy. She declared that she would start a withdrawal plan for the War in Iraq from the first day she is nominated president. Additionally, she advocates withdrawing U.S. troops that are deployed all around the world. She is against welfare programs and government spending, believing that these are fundamentally corrupt. She advocates abolishing most government programs, including the Federal Reserve, Internal Revenue Service, War on Drugs, the National ID card, internet regulation and prosecution of victimless crimes. She is a strong opponent of U.S. corporate welfare policies, seeing them as the result of corruption and inefficiency. Believing that free markets and free trade are would raise the standard of living, she advocates a strong monetary system and private property rights. She strongly abides[citation needed] by the U.S. constitution, personal freedom and privacy. She claims that the U.S. healthcare system is getting worse because of too much government intervention, corruption and corporatism. On education issues, she is a firm supporter of privatization and homeschooling. She supports abortion, but opposes funding for stem cell research. She supports local control over pollution and conservation over the federal level. She supports private property rights and abolishing government corruption to reduce pollution


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Postby TenuredVulture » Mon May 26, 2008 23:56:28

I like mayo and asparagus.

Asparagus is not only delicious, but it makes my pee smell good.

Broccoli I can take or leave.

But like Obama, I don't much care for soft drinks (unless my family recipe for iced tea counts) and I love pistachios.
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Postby philliesphhan » Tue May 27, 2008 00:30:53

Laexile wrote:He's saying that someone who didn't serve shouldn't be saying that someone who did doesn't care about veterans and understand their situation. I'm sure he would say the same if you also said you knew what was better for veterans.


That's basically the same as when someone outside of the game disagrees with a manager's move. "This guy's never even played the game. What does he know?"
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Postby philliesphhan » Tue May 27, 2008 00:34:27

jerseyhoya wrote:
Obama's likes and dislikes...

I can really get behind him liking broccoli, which is probably my favorite veggie, rivaled only by string beans.


True, I always thought Broccoli was really underrated esp cooked, fucking delicious
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Postby Laexile » Tue May 27, 2008 02:53:36

philliesphhan wrote:
Laexile wrote:He's saying that someone who didn't serve shouldn't be saying that someone who did doesn't care about veterans and understand their situation. I'm sure he would say the same if you also said you knew what was better for veterans.


That's basically the same as when someone outside of the game disagrees with a manager's move. "This guy's never even played the game. What does he know?"

I don't know where you get that from what I wrote. Obama has pretty much said that John McCain doesn't care about veterans. McCain's response is roughly the same as someone here saying that Charlie Manuel doesn't know anything about baseball and Charlie responding that someone who has never been involved in the game shouldn't make that statement.

The two of them support different bills giving veterans benefits. It is certainly debatable which bill is better for veterans and which is better for the military to retain the best troops for the longest period of time. Because McCain doesn't support the bill Obama supports and voted against it, Obama has decided that means that Obama doesn't care about veterans. That's nonsense. But Webb has created a situation where Obama might be able to convince the American public of this.

I can see how McCain, a man who spent five years in a POW camp, would be offended by someone who never served suggesting that he didn't care about veterans.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 27, 2008 09:26:26

Mitch McConnell is trailing by 5 points in a Rasmussen poll.

The Senate Minority Leader. In Kentucky. Down 5. Shoot me.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue May 27, 2008 10:07:05

jerseyhoya wrote:Mitch McConnell is trailing by 5 points in a Rasmussen poll.

The Senate Minority Leader. In Kentucky. Down 5. Shoot me.


I think there's a good chance McConnell will hold on.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 27, 2008 10:10:43

Yeah, he's got $8 mil in the bank and McCain's gonna win Kentucky by 25. Still, it's a sign of how complete the party's problems are.

The supposed competitive races VA, NH, NM, CO are all but gone. Now we're worrying about OR, MN, KY, NC, etc. We have an outside chance of picking up one Senate seat (LA). Our second best chance might be in New Jersey, seriously.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue May 27, 2008 10:11:55

You might be in real trouble in NC.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 27, 2008 10:14:42

We're in real trouble in all four of those states I listed in the second set there. Maine might also become a race. And Texas. And I left off Mississippi, where there was a poll last week that had us down. The Dems could legitimately get to 60 votes this cycle if things keep going this badly.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue May 27, 2008 10:17:11

jerseyhoya wrote:We're in real trouble in all four of those states I listed in the second set there. Maine might also become a race. And Texas. And I left off Mississippi, where there was a poll last week that had us down. The Dems could legitimately get to 60 votes this cycle if things keep going this badly.


I dunno. McConnell will win KY, and I don't see the people of Minnesota elected Al Franken.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue May 27, 2008 12:16:07

Thinking about what's happening with Congressional elections, I wonder was Howard Dean brilliant or lucky with the 50 state strategy? Obviously, there was a bit of luck involved--I doubt anyone would have predicted that by 2008, we'd have to seriously consider the possibility of a filibuster proof Democratic majority in the Senate. So the time was ripe.

And it was a perfect counter to the Rove K Street project by shifting the battleground from Washington to the countryside.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 27, 2008 13:01:06

McConnell released internal polling showing him up 11, 50-39.

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