BuddyGroom wrote:According to "The Lionel Show" on Air America, Obama won the popular vote in Alabama 56%-42%, yet Hillary Clinton got 21 delegates, Obama 20.

I don't believe in winner-take-all primaries, but there has to be a better process than the one the Democrats are using.

TenuredVulture wrote:One of the more interensting things with Obama v. Hillary is that it seems Obama does very well among Southern white men, confounding some stereotypes. Of course, Southern white men are not a big Democratic constituency. Hillary's support in the South is largely dependent on white women.

This is a gender war, more than it is racially charged election.

jerseyhoya wrote:It's a racial, gender and generational divide. Probably some class thrown in there for spice.

If you're younger, male, or black all three of those things makes it more likely you're supporting Obama. If you're older, female, or white or hispanic, it's more likely that you're supporting Clinton.

jerseyhoya wrote:It's a racial, gender and generational divide. Probably some class thrown in there for spice.

If you're younger, male, or black all three of those things makes it more likely you're supporting Obama. If you're older, female, or white or hispanic, it's more likely that you're supporting Clinton.

lethal wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:It's a racial, gender and generational divide. Probably some class thrown in there for spice.

If you're younger, male, or black all three of those things makes it more likely you're supporting Obama. If you're older, female, or white or hispanic, it's more likely that you're supporting Clinton.

There's some educational split there too (might go along with the class divide).

CFP wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:It's a racial, gender and generational divide. Probably some class thrown in there for spice.

If you're younger, male, or black all three of those things makes it more likely you're supporting Obama. If you're older, female, or white or hispanic, it's more likely that you're supporting Clinton.

The group that really interests me in the race is the older, white male (not seniors, more like 45-54 range) that remember Bill. Especially in the Northeast. I want to see how they vote in Pennsylvania, whether they go for Hillary or go for Obama. I guess NY and MA both went for Hillary. I really can't wait to see how PA plays out though.

jerseyhoya wrote:I don't think any are counting Florida or Michigan.

It depends a lot on how they're counting super delegates, and also on how quickly they're tallying from last night and how they're doing so.

The Dems give out delegates proportionally by district. Here's another different count. I like this one because it's easy to read, and I think they're drawing from lots of sources.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html

philliesphhan wrote:So, we basically still have a long way to go because Clinton is winning but barely by anything

jerseyhoya wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:So, we basically still have a long way to go because Clinton is winning but barely by anything

Not only the closeness of the race, but also because the Democrats give out delegates in a proportional fashion, which makes it nearly impossible to pull away unless one person starts winning all the primaries.

Warszawa wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:So, we basically still have a long way to go because Clinton is winning but barely by anything

Not only the closeness of the race, but also because the Democrats give out delegates in a proportional fashion, which makes it nearly impossible to pull away unless one person starts winning all the primaries.

Doesn't that also make it harder to catch up though?

mpmcgraw wrote:As long as there are people as racist as my family is Obama will never win the presidency.

It's not even because he's black or because they are that racist it's because they are largely uneducated (aka all high school grads barely) and because they are terrified of muslims.