A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 21, 2015 21:02:17

Wooooooo
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby WilliamC » Fri Aug 21, 2015 21:04:57

Everybody rides with three Phillies legends woohoo! So awesome
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Bucky » Sat Aug 22, 2015 07:54:45

so we have the driver, the cannon-loader, the celebrity, the mascot, and the "woohoo" guy

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Slowhand » Sat Aug 22, 2015 09:25:18

WilliamC wrote:Everybody rides with three Phillies legends woohoo! So awesome


1 is pretty great but I don't know about legend just quite yet
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Rev_Beezer » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:44:01

MoBettle wrote:That's not how it works though. He's being overpaid now


Every major league baseball player is overpaid.
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Aug 22, 2015 18:42:08

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/201 ... house.html

After his playing career ended, Mackanin managed in the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela and needed to conduct interviews with local reporters covering his teams.

Shortly after taking over the Phillies for Ryne Sandberg in late June, Mackanin conducted a pregame interview with Angel Castillo, a member of the Phillies' Spanish broadcast team.

"I feel comfortable enough to know that I'm making a lot of mistakes and it probably sounds stupid," he said. "But people like to hear that. They don't expect me to be bilingual. I wish I were."

Galvis smiled when recently asked about his American skipper's Spanish.

"He can understand almost everything," the 25-year-old shortstop said. "But you have to speak it slow. He's good at it."

"More than basic stuff," Andres Blanco said. "He actually makes jokes in Spanish."

"He's real good," Carlos Ruiz said.

Quipped Mackanin: "It's better when I have a few beers."

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Bill McNeal » Sat Aug 22, 2015 18:57:20

I dunno man, I'm inclined to say keep mackanin. He's done a good job since he took over, the players seem to like him I mean, why mess with something that's working?
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby rolex » Sat Aug 22, 2015 19:55:40

Bill McNeal wrote:I dunno man, I'm inclined to say keep mackanin. He's done a good job since he took over, the players seem to like him I mean, why mess with something that's working?

I'd be interested in who he would put on his coaching staff before I'd rehire him. For starters, McLure has to go.

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Bill McNeal » Sat Aug 22, 2015 19:59:14

Agree completely, I'd dump McClure as soon as the season ends. I don't like the cut of his jib
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Aug 22, 2015 20:08:10

I'd pay Dan warthen whatever he wants to come here.

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby wwry » Sat Aug 22, 2015 20:13:57

pete mackanin loves latinos
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Sat Aug 22, 2015 20:24:52

Doll Is Mine wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20150823_Inside_the_Phillies__No_language_barrier_for_Mackanin_in_diverse_clubhouse.html

After his playing career ended, Mackanin managed in the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela and needed to conduct interviews with local reporters covering his teams.

Shortly after taking over the Phillies for Ryne Sandberg in late June, Mackanin conducted a pregame interview with Angel Castillo, a member of the Phillies' Spanish broadcast team.

"I feel comfortable enough to know that I'm making a lot of mistakes and it probably sounds stupid," he said. "But people like to hear that. They don't expect me to be bilingual. I wish I were."

Galvis smiled when recently asked about his American skipper's Spanish.

"He can understand almost everything," the 25-year-old shortstop said. "But you have to speak it slow. He's good at it."

"More than basic stuff," Andres Blanco said. "He actually makes jokes in Spanish."

"He's real good," Carlos Ruiz said.

Quipped Mackanin: "It's better when I have a few beers."


There you go, again, Pistol

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby phorever » Mon Aug 24, 2015 05:06:42

bad news... suddenly lots of competition for the 1st draft pick in 2016.
but... crawford was drafted 16th and nola was drafted 7th.
and also... rollins was a 2nd rounder, utley was drafted 15th, and hamels was drafted 17th.
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby phillychuck » Mon Aug 24, 2015 07:10:04

Philly the Kid wrote:If you collapse Ryan Howard's first two less than full seasons and his later 2 less than full seasons, in to one season each - he has 10 years of play avg 35hrs, 112rbi, 80runs, 26dbls. Not a bad 10 year avg. Frustration is that there's a dominant 5 1/2 and a mediocre to poor 4 1/2. His OPS and Slugging are respectable still for a career, despite his steep decline.

When it's all said and done, I'm not even sure he'll have been that overpaid? It's just like it all went in reverse order. His last 5 season paychecks are for his first 5 seasons...

I always thought his career would mirror Big Papi's moreso -- not a HOFer, but not a terrible career.


Because of his defense and the position he plays (where offense is easily available) he's only been a more than 2 fWAR player from 2006-2009. And he's been below replacement level most of the time since, regardless of what the counting stats say.

He should have been overpaid for his early success by some other team.
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby smitty » Mon Aug 24, 2015 09:11:11

And yet, his bWARP and VORPs ranged from very good to pretty good from 2006-2011. His defense clearly sucked. But he hit pretty well. Defensive stats are unreliable but we could see he was pretty awful. Wish we let him go FA as soon as he was eligible. The Phillies were correct in determining slugging homer hitters would become more rare. Unfortunately, Howard fell apart. He has a great attytood and he works hard. But he has too many holes in the swing and the shift hurts him and lefties kill him. He actually was a good RBI man because he hit much better with men on base due in part to less radical shifts.
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby lethal » Mon Aug 24, 2015 09:16:50

Bill McNeal wrote:I dunno man, I'm inclined to say keep mackanin. He's done a good job since he took over, the players seem to like him I mean, why mess with something that's working?


I think keeping Pete would be good.

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Mon Aug 24, 2015 09:59:47

My only concern would be limiting the pool of GM candidates. But hopefully McPhail will opt for a more SABR inclined GM who wouldn't really care

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Aug 24, 2015 18:03:04

Would, maybe, wouldn't

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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby WilliamC » Mon Aug 24, 2015 18:33:34

But if they pitch well wood, wood wood.
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Re: A Final Ode to Coal Hummus and other Phillies Thoughts

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 19:54:17

Doll Is Mine wrote:Would, maybe, wouldn't

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What the hell is wrong with Aaron Nola?
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