Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:12:30

CalvinBall wrote:is he stuck in the AHL for the rest of his contract then?


Most likely not. It's actually a brilliant chess move by Hextall. Schenn probably would've been claimed so why lose him for nothing. A couple of D injuries for another team and you might get a 5th in 2017 for Schenn. No one is claiming MacD. They wanted Laughton and Manning to make the team so the 900K savings by having MacD play for the Phantoms allows them to without losing Schenn for nothing. Once Schenn is traded or we get a long term Dman injury MacD will come back up.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby CFP » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:14:40

Hexy's done a fantastic job so far. Very impressed.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:21:57

ReadingPhilly wrote:wonder if this is just to get roster compliant since they know nobody will claim him and they fear they'd lose manning. not sure it makes much sense to waive him otherwise. that's $4m in dead money per year for the next 5 years. probably better to run him out for half a season and hope someone gets suckered into trading for him after they lose a few dmen.


Yeah, it's definitely a roster move. He can come back up at any time assuming someone is traded or injured (would get cap exception for injured players salary). Manning made the top 6, it was Schenn they didn't want to lose for nothing. Even if MacD comes back and plays well you'd have to attach a high draft pick with him to take that contract. Hextall to this point has said he won't do that. Homer did some dumb stuff but the MacDonald trade/contract and Vinny signing were other worldly.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:33:01

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:is he stuck in the AHL for the rest of his contract then?


Most likely not. It's actually a brilliant chess move by Hextall. Schenn probably would've been claimed so why lose him for nothing. A couple of D injuries for another team and you might get a 5th in 2017 for Schenn. No one is claiming MacD. They wanted Laughton and Manning to make the team so the 900K savings by having MacD play for the Phantoms allows them to without losing Schenn for nothing. Once Schenn is traded or we get a long term Dman injury MacD will come back up.

Well said.
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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby Ace Rothstein » Mon Oct 05, 2015 13:52:48

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:is he stuck in the AHL for the rest of his contract then?


Most likely not. It's actually a brilliant chess move by Hextall. Schenn probably would've been claimed so why lose him for nothing. A couple of D injuries for another team and you might get a 5th in 2017 for Schenn. No one is claiming MacD. They wanted Laughton and Manning to make the team so the 900K savings by having MacD play for the Phantoms allows them to without losing Schenn for nothing. Once Schenn is traded or we get a long term Dman injury MacD will come back up.



If a team claimed Schenn, would that team take on his cap hit for the season?

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Oct 05, 2015 13:54:14

Ace Rothstein wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:is he stuck in the AHL for the rest of his contract then?


Most likely not. It's actually a brilliant chess move by Hextall. Schenn probably would've been claimed so why lose him for nothing. A couple of D injuries for another team and you might get a 5th in 2017 for Schenn. No one is claiming MacD. They wanted Laughton and Manning to make the team so the 900K savings by having MacD play for the Phantoms allows them to without losing Schenn for nothing. Once Schenn is traded or we get a long term Dman injury MacD will come back up.



If a team claimed Schenn, would that team take on his cap hit for the season?

Yeah they just take on the player with his remaining contract, so by waiving Mac, some team either takes that contract off our hands (won't happen) or he goes down to the AHL (gets 950K salary relief) and you have an injury replacement for the next few years.
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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Oct 07, 2015 20:22:23

As a Philadelphia sports fan (besides the Eagles) I am programmed to feel hope at the beginning of each season. As I sit here on the eve of the Flyers 2015-2016 campaign, I am filled not only with hope but a likely irrational level of hope for what this season will bring. I really think our boys are going to surprise some people this season. There are always "ifs" but if Mason can stay healthy and play at the same level he has so far during his Flyers' career, we will do some damage. Regardless of what happens this season, the future is bright.

GO ORANGE AND BLACK!!!

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby CFP » Wed Oct 07, 2015 20:58:14

Hockey News guy picked us to finish behind the Canes.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Oct 07, 2015 20:59:45

I'm certainly expecting a season similar to last year.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby BigEd76 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 21:00:32

CSN Philly picked us 6th in the division (ahead of NJ/CAR)

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby momadance » Wed Oct 07, 2015 21:02:45

ReadingPhilly wrote:I'm certainly expecting a season similar to last year.


Pretty much. Should be a some improvement but not much until the kids start playing.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby rolex » Wed Oct 07, 2015 21:07:30

momadance wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:I'm certainly expecting a season similar to last year.


Pretty much. Should be a some improvement but not much until the kids start playing.

This where I am as well. The question is at what point does Hex/Hak agree that they've seen enough of the roster from last year and start to blend in younger players? I think that except for G, Couturier Mason and Voracek, anyone on the opening night roster is available for trade.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby momadance » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:23:25

And Simmonds.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby PTOITWCFTPP » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:36:12

We will be a team in playoff contention until around the ASB, just like last year, but Hextall is going to be a seller, not a buyer, just like last year. This gets us a Top 10 pick where we take a Forward. We deal more dead weight at the draft. All the kids are on the team next year. THEN WE GON PARTY
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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby z ipper » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:36:30

gostisbehere is the only one you're going to see this year. all the players sent to juniors are def out. morin/hagg could come up if there are enough injuries/trades.
i think the biggest improvement will come from grossmann, macdonald and (hopefully) schenn not being on the ice. plus presumably a bump from the coaching change.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:37:11

momadance wrote:And Simmonds.


I wouldn't be opposed to moving him.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby PTOITWCFTPP » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:38:19

ReadingPhilly wrote:
momadance wrote:And Simmonds.


I wouldn't be opposed to moving him.

Uhhhh go on.
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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby CFP » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:38:30

The only way they make the playoffs is if they win every single game against Columbus and the Islanders fail.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:44:20

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:
momadance wrote:And Simmonds.


I wouldn't be opposed to moving him.

Uhhhh go on.


Certainly wouldn't give him away or anything but thought he stagnated last year. Kind of got away from the type of player he is IMO.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Unread postby momadance » Wed Oct 07, 2015 22:45:04

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:
momadance wrote:And Simmonds.


I wouldn't be opposed to moving him.

Uhhhh go on.


Send some deadweight with him. Wouldn't opposed to trading him if a team took Vinny with him.

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